As more and more fuel elements fail with sea water cooling, an increase in 
monitored radiations levels could be expected.  It would be helpful to know 
which isotopes make up the monitored levels.

Bob Cook

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From: Jones Beene
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 11:00 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fukushima much worse than imagined


Fear-mongering? LOL. Apparently Alain does not look at the dates of these 
attempts at what are essentially PR, many of which were sanitized and put into 
circulation by TEPCO or their insurance carrier. The company has been caught in 
many outright lies since the accident and this is more of the same. 
The best response to the "no surprise" article can be paraphrased from the 
comments from others and from common sense. In fact, it is preposterous to 
imagine that the radiation level of more than 530 Sv/hr now measured ... "could 
be expected" given the intervening years and prior levels which were low. Do  
you understand what this level means so long after the accident? Apparently 
not. 
TEPCO reported a previous high reading of 73 Sv/hr soon after the accident. 
That would have been in the "no surprise" category, and relatively less than 
expected (Chernobyl high reading was 200) but the new reading is completely off 
the charts, coming this late. It should have dropped every year. That is the 
biggest problem, it is going the wrong way.
It is a paradigm shift which at worst means that substantial amounts, possibly 
many tons or formerly fertile material (U238) is becoming fissile (Pu239) or at 
least activated in an unknown way. A secondary explosion cannot be ruled out 
since the cores can merge. Thankfully the cores are melting their way deeper 
and deeper into earth, but if the 3 should merge... kaboom ... but let's not go 
there. Google OKLO  a site in Africa where natural uranium went critical.
"If the material causing the initial reading (73 Sv/Hr) would have been normal 
nuclear fuel at relatively low enrichment, then that level should have gone 
down by an order of magnitude in the ensuing time. We should be seeing no more 
than 7 Sv/Hr now, BUT instead, it is 500 or 70 times higher in one location 
after almost 6 years.
Thus this high reading was actually totally unexpected by many experts not 
associated with the company. It is essentially 70 times higher than expected if 
representative, and could be worse the deeper one goes (or less). As for proof 
of that dishonesty, consider that the Robots being used were designed to 
withstand 1000 Sv (LIFETIME irradiation until failure) which is only two hours 
at this rate. You would never use them if you were "expecting" anything near 
these levels. Of course they quickly failed and this means the rate was a huge 
surprise.
Had TEPCO expected the 500 Sv level of radiation, as competent engineers they 
would have increased the radiation hardness of the robot by a factor of ten in 
order to get anywhere near the endurance time they needed for a meaningful 
probe. That they did not, completely eliminates their "no surprise" BS. They 
are lying, plain and simple and the robot proves they are lying.
Plus, if the high radiation was localized in a small zone, then try to explain 
why the robot remained over that spot so long... and failed "prematurely"? 
Obviously the danger zone could be much larger and possibly the radiation level 
is even more severe than admitted - since the robot failed so quickly. That 
failure is another smoking gun, so to speak.
Again, it is ludicrous to say this high reading was expected ... unless you are 
a company that was essentially negligent beyond all reason, both in the design 
and more so in the response.
Worst of all - 5 years from now, the situation could be more toxic, since it 
appears 3 completely unconstrained cores are converting fertile uranium into 
fissile plutonium at an unexpected rate. Again, if a secondary explosion 
(hydrogen, steam or nuclear) cannot be ruled out, should not TEPCO be 
evacuating a wider zone? 
At Chernobyl, the situation has improved year to year, every year, as expected. 
Wildlife is taking over the formerly devastated area. 
Fukushima, appears to be going in the opposite direction.
On 2/18/2017 8:36 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
to relativize the fearmongering 
http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/nuclear/high-fukushima-radiation-estimates-no-surprise-to-experts
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/243904-fukushimas-reactor-2-far-radioactive-previously-realized-no-sign-containment-breach
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/10/09/national/science-health/extensive-radiation-study-finds-no-internal-cesium-exposure-fukushima-children/#.WJoJrzvhDzT
http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0003511587
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/fukushima-residents-exposed-far-less-radiation-thought
https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2014/11/thyroid-cancer-south-korea-cautionary-tale-about-dangers-overdiagnosis
http://ansnuclearcafe.org/2017/02/07/radiation-levels-not-soaring-at-fukushima-daiichi/
http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/

diversify your sources, or at least avoid the fearmongers and the salesmen.
http://www.huffingtonpost.jp/claire-leppold/fukushima-and-the-art-of-knowing-en_b_10537440.html
http://www.gepr.org/en/contents/20120507-03/

anyway there have been an heavy death toll, beside the huge 20k of living near 
water
http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/08/fear-of-radiation-has-killed-761-and.html
http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/02/evacuation-deaths-in-japan-in-2011-were.html

water kills, we should forbid it

2017-02-18 16:19 GMT+01:00 Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>:
Fukushima much worse than imagined - 3 cores in runaway meltdown with no chance 
to stop them. China syndrome in reverse...

Makes Chernobyl look like spilled milk

http://www.environews.tv/world-news/alert-new-radiation-readings-fukushima-reactor-2-unimaginable-lethal-1-min/

How long before the entire Pacific fishing industry is shut down?

http://dailyoccupation.com/2016/12/28/fukushima-radiation-contaminated-entire-pacific-ocean-going-get-worse/

Be sure to take your rad monitor to the fish market... and avoid the specials.




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