The quote you note is NOT MINE!

Bob Cook

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From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:05 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

<bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:

“I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any 
time, ever.  Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand 
almost completely.

I do not think there is rigorous proof of this. On the contrary, decades ago, 
computers began doing things that  people considered creative, such as 
re-inventing devices that AT&T patented in the early 20th century, and winning 
at chess and go. So far, every time people have set a goal post and claimed 
"computers will never do this" the people have been wrong. They have responded 
by moving the goal posts and saying, "that is not intelligent after all."

 
  However consciousness, even animal consciousness, is something we will never 
understand sufficiently to create it, because it is a supernatural phenomenon.”

Supernatural phenomena do not exist, by definition. The universe and every 
particle in it is governed by uniform laws of nature. There are no exceptions 
to them. Any phenomenon that occurs in the universe is natural, by definition, 
and explicable in principle.

At least, that is how things appear to be. That is the basis of science. No 
exceptions have been discovered so far, and there is no reason to think that 
brains or intelligence is an exception. A great deal is known about how brains 
work, and there are no pending mysteries that seem to be outside the known laws 
of physics and chemistry.

That does not mean people will be able to invent machines capable of sentient 
artificial intelligence. That may be beyond our creative capabilities. Our 
species might go extinct before we achieve that. However, if we fail it will 
not be because intelligence is supernatural. Nothing is, anywhere.

I think it is likely the human race will go extinct before we can colonize the 
entire galaxy or build a Dyson Sphere to capture all of the energy from a star. 
I suspect such achievements are beyond our capability. But, sentient, powerful 
artificial intelligence seems close at hand to me. I expect it will be achieved 
in the next 50 to 200 years. There has been much more progress toward it than 
many experts predicted in the 1980s. I doubt anyone would have predicted that 
by the year 2010, a computer would beat any human at the game of Jeopardy, for 
example, or drive cars more skillfully with fewer accidents than any human. I 
myself thought that effective self-driving cars were decades away.

Again, this is not to suggest that artificial intelligence will resemble 
natural human intelligence, or be mistaken for it. I suppose it will even more 
different from human intelligence than, say the intelligence of a whale, dog, 
or a bat is from ours. I doubt that artificial intelligence will be encumbered 
with any emotional content such as longing, fear or love. Arthur Clarke 
suspected that these things might arise naturally as a consequence of 
intelligence, as emergent phenomena. I do not think so.

- Jed


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