Gamma radiation does appear when a BEC is not formed between the SPPs
involved in a LENR reaction. Yes, the LENR reaction can produce gamma
radiation when the SPPs are not pumped to a level sufficient to establish a
Polariton BEC. This is why a cold LENR reaction will produce Gamma
radiation and a Hot LENR reaction will not produce Gamma radiation.

See

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2004/2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Harry, You seem to be suggesting that the experiments in France could be
> operating by (inadvertently) storing applied energy in nuclei for later
> release - at least as an alternate explanation for the two runs which
> showed gain after months of what looks very much like a battery being
> charged.
>
> As unlikely as this possibility may sound at first to a proponent of cold
> fusion - the mechanism has not been eliminated. In fact, it may be more
> physical than suggesting nuclear fusion without radiation, since it
> involves "one less miracle."
>
> For instance, the weak nuclear force has two poorly understood properties
> - weak hypercharge and weak isospin -- either of which (or both) arguably
> could be boosted or pumped up by electrical current flow (in palladium
> electrolysis) over time and then the accumulated energy released later.
>
> In fact, the weak force could even supply helium (which does not come from
> fusion but from alpha decay of the heavier palladium isotope after months
> of "hypercharging" ;-)
>
> This "weak force pumping" rationale, having its main validity based on our
> lack of understanding of the weak force - indicates how little is known
> about the underlying mechanisms for the unpredictable gain of cold fusion.
> There could be many. The appearance of helium should never lead to the
> reflexive conclusion of fusion, that is- when gamma radiation is absent.
>
> BTW - In terms of defining an anomaly such as the one in question,
> "average" gain may not be as meaningful as peak intermittent gain, but in
> terms of a parameter which is leading towards commercialization - it is
> really the only meaningful metric. Is there any indication anywhere that
> LENR is closer to commercialization than it was in 1989 ?
>  H LV wrote:
>
>
>  Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
>> Jones Beene wrote:
>>
>> The intractable problem in cold fusion is that this "hero effort" - the
>>> very best result to have occurred in 28 years was itself little more than a
>>> yawner. People tend to forget that this result (almost 300 MJ of gain) was
>>> statistically very close to a null result in total (as an average) and it
>>> did not point the way to a useful device.
>>
>>
>> "Average" is not meaningful in this context. The experiment produced no
>> heat for a while, then it turned on and produced ~100 W for 30 days in one
>> test and 70 days in another. Computing the average including the time
>> before it turned on would be like computing the average speed of an
>> airplane including the time it is sitting at the gate and the time waiting
>> in line to take off.
>>
>> There is no energy storage during the time before it turns on. We know
>> there is none because the energy balance is zero, and because you cannot
>> store that much energy.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>
> "​You cannot store that much energy"​ is working hypothesis.
> ​That much energy could be stored in nuclei.
> Is it such a leap to go from speculating about how energy can leave the
> nucleus by imaging the nucleus as coupled to the lattice, to speculating
> how energy can enter the nucleus by imagining another coupling mechanism?
> Imagine a pendulum clock designed to work in reverse where externally
> driven oscillations of the pendulum from outside the clock serve to wind
> the clock up.
>
> Harry​
>
>
>
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