As discussed previously: Similarly, with billions of H >>> atoms trapped in Palladium lattices, when 2 of them fuse, the emitted >>> energy gets absorbed by the lattice. That's how we end up with >>> transmutations.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem with this fusion idea is that it does not explain the subset > of LENR experiments that show fission is occurring. Can this theory explain > fission in LENR? I don't think so. > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> In particular, this paragraph seems to support my Balloon analogy for >> absorbing most of the high energy emissions into the lattice. >> >> >> >> "...as in the Mossbauer effect, through a real effect, implicit in >> the symmetry associated with rigid lattice translations that preserve >> periodic order, it is possible for a lattice to “recoil” elastically, as a >> whole, in response to a collision at a point. In the generalization of band >> theory [19] to many-body, finite systems, the same symmetry is invoked and >> leads to a huge degeneracy. Because indistinguishable particles are >> involved in these systems, implicitly, additional degeneracies are also >> present. The combined effects provide a means for particles to have >> appreciable overlap at many, periodically displaced “points” (as discussed >> below), simultaneously, for finite periods of time, in a manner that can >> result in new forms of collisions in which momentum is transferred from the >> locations where overlap can occur, rigidly to the lattice as a whole. When >> these idealized forms of motion are initiated by collisions resulting from >> the overlap between d’s in IBS’s, they can result in forms of coupling that >> can cause nuclear fusion to take place in which small amounts of momentum >> and energy from many different locations are transferred coherently to the >> solid as a whole and subsequently transferred to many different particles >> in a cooperative fashion. As a consequence, in agreement with experiment, >> the associated nuclear energy is predicted to be released without >> high-energy particles. " >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In this old thread, we discussed BECs with Edmund Storms. He >>> unsubscribed from Vortex soon after this interaction, hopefully I wasn't >>> the one who drove him off. >>> >>> Anyways, at the time I did not have access to Chubb's theory but now Jed >>> has uploaded his Ion Band State Theory (IBST) paper onto Lenr-Canr.org >>> >>> It is compelling. But I am disheartened that Jones Beene said it is >>> above his pay grade. Now I think it is two layers above my pay grade. >>> It seems to cover all the bases and it uses conventional physics. >>> >>> >>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChubbSRconvention.pdf >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation. >>>>> >>>> ***There have been some observances of radiation. Not very much, but >>>> some. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hot fusion produces a mixture of energetic fragments of He.These are >>>>> two entirely different processes producing different products. The name is >>>>> only used to distinguish between the two different processes. >>>>> >>>> ***I think I see where the difference lies. Let's say we had a million >>>> balloons all filled with air, and around those million balloons there is a >>>> lattice of tinker toys such that each balloon is boxed in. Now, in the >>>> middle of all those balloons, you pop one of them. Would you be able to >>>> hear the explosion? Probably not, because the emitted energy would be >>>> absorbed by the lattice & other baloons. Similarly, with billions of H >>>> atoms trapped in Palladium lattices, when 2 of them fuse, the emitted >>>> energy gets absorbed by the lattice. That's how we end up with >>>> transmutations. >>>> >>>> But if you had a million balloons in a big room (with no tinker toy >>>> lattice) and you exploded 50,000 of them at one time, would you hear the >>>> explosion? Yes. The emitted energy would not be fully absorbed by the >>>> surrounding matter, and indeed could even lead to further explosions & >>>> emissions. That's the difference between cold fusion (tinker toy lattice, >>>> only very few fusion events) and hot fusion (no tinker toy lattice, >>>> thousands of fusion events leading up to a large emission of energy). >>>> >>>> Imposing the conclusions of hot fusion emitted energy onto cold fusion >>>> emitted energy is where your observation loses its validity. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
