A proton or a neutron is made up of energy as per E=MC2. If a proton or a
neutron decays back into energy about 1 giga electron volts of pure energy
is produced. In the process of proton decay, Mesons are first produced,
they will decay into pions and then muons and finally electrons but along
the way of this chain of decays much energy is released as each type of
subatomic particle decays into other types.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay

Holmlid has discovered experimentally that protons will decay no matter
what science thinks now.



On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:59 AM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, July 7, 2017 11:24 AM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Picking up the pieces
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> Axil—
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> Most of your answers I do not understand because of the use of non
> meaningful terms IMHO, for example, proton neutron decay, activated surface
> plasmon polaritons, magnetic power, insulating bosonic gas, muon catalyzed
> fission, nuclear binding energy is stored, condensation of this energy, etc.
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> Bob Cook
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> I agree with much of your assessment of the Rossi effect, what you call
> the Rossi reactor.  I               agree that there is a history of high
> temperature reactions, but many of these have been associated with the Pd-D
> system, which I consider entails a different physical mechanism for the
> conversion of potential energy to kinetic energy.
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> LENR gets its energy from proton and neutron decay caused by intense nano
> magnetism. The  physical mechanism involves the generation of
> ACTIVATED Surface Plasmon Polaritons that produce intense magnetism which
> gain sufficient magnetic power from the formation of a superradiant
> superconductive Bose condinsate of SPPs on various types of nanostructures
> which include cracks, pits, bumps, nanoparticles, cavitation bubbles, and
> in general any nanostructure that can confine electrons for long enough to
> become entangled with photons to form polaritons. Most metals will support
> this function. An insulating gas is required to produce polaritons on the
> surface of these various metals. The insulating gas might need to be
> bosonic. Nitrogen will not work and neither will a mixture of protium and
> deuterium. Hydrogen in the metallic state produces nanoparticles and is
> therefore LENR active.
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> Rossi has developed a reactor (an engineered system which includes a
> control system for the important physical parameters—dynamic magnetic and
> electric field intensity, and temperature of the nickel nano-
> structures—and heat transfer devices/agents) that works to limit the
> production of energetic particles associated with normal fission or hot
> fusion reactors and the unstable isotopes such reactions are notorious for.
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> Fusion and fission are produced in LENR as a SECONDARY reaction from muon
> catalysis at a distance from the primary nucleon decay reaction site.
> These muons may be entangled with the SPP BEC that produced them and the
> energy from the fusion and fission is captured at a distance by the SPP BEC
> where the nuclear binding energy is stored. This energy will form more
> mesons through particle production. Excess electrons are also produced from
> a condinsation of this energy.
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> The BEC radiates both thermal energy (*Hawkins radiation*) and light
> energy (red through XUV) as a side channel reaction.
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> One of the keys to the success of the Rossi reactor R&D IMHO has been the
> development of  a Ni based nano-particle—a quantum mechanical coherent
> system—which is cooled by Li vapor—to avoid a run-away reaction which you,
> Axil, correctly associate with temperatures around 3000 C.
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> In the low temperature LENR reaction, lithium helps in the production of
> metallic hydrogen and lithium nanoparticles.  In the high temperature
> reaction, nickel vapor condinsation produces the nanoparticle. The QuarkX
> just involves nickel and hydrogen.
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> The small size of the nano-particles provides a limit to the effects of a
> run-away release of potential energy and  destruction of the reactor or
> more than one nano-particle.  (And no muons or other sub atomic particles
> are produced by the relatively low kinetic energy associated with 3000 C. )
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> Muons are always produced in LENR even when the reaction is produced by a
> anisotropic magnet like SnCo5 as in Cravens golden balls at 80C.  The muon
> production rate is proportional to the power output of the reaction. Most
> of the energy produced by LENR comes in the form of muons and electrons
> from particle creation.
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> There are many commercial devices that create temperatures above 3000C,
> for example electric arc welders which I have used many times.  They do not
> produce the energetic particles or photons you, Axil. are concerned about
> with respect to the “Rossi reactor” IHMO.
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> Muons are hard to detect. Nitrogen is a LENR poison which may dampen the
> LENR reaction, however.  IMHO, Ken Shoulders has produced SPPs via
> nanoparticle generation via spark discharge. Shoulders thought these
> solitons (EVO) where electron vortexes but they are really polariton
> vortices.
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> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, July 7, 2017 8:06 AM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Picking up the pieces
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> There are multiple third party validations. Rossi's methods and approach
> have been verified in part by his many replicators. This is not to say that
> Rossi's reactor or any LENR reactor for that matter  can be commercialized
> due to heavy subatomic particle emissions. This includes R. Mills and the
> SunCell.
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> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>
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> from recent data, taking any conclusion on Rossi's claims is at best
> risky, and to be honest, baseless.
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> 2017-07-07 3:01 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>:
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> What the Rossi experiments has shown over many years is that LENR in a
> lattice is not workable because the reaction cannot be controlled. This
> lack of control makes the E-Cat technology untenable. Rossi has
> realized this and Rossi is will to let this knowhow fadeaway. The LENR
> reaction wants to operate at the boiling point of the metal lattice
> (nickel) which is 3000K. LENR is based on activation of nanoparticles in a
> dusty plasma. Rossi has struggled to control the LENR reaction at low
> temperatures but he always fails because LENR would invariably get to 3000K
> and meltdown his reactor. So Rossi finally decided to use reactor
> structural material that doesn't melt at 3000K. This material must be an
> insulator that does not melt at 3000K. Mills has stumbled on the same
> reaction and his SunCell runs at the vapor point of silver at only 2200C.
> Mills has solved the meltdown problem is another way, he justs runs
> everything as a liquid without any containment. Holmlid is on to the same
> LENR mechanism. There is nothing unusual with metalized hydrogen. In the
> LENR reaction, metalized hydrogen acts like any
> other metallic nanoparticle.
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> Using a lattice for LENR is a losing proposition. The dusty plasma
> approach to the LENR reaction is the only way to go. I beleive that Rossi
> has settled on a high temperature  tube material that works: boron nitride,
> a transparent isolator whose melting point is 3000C.
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> Alan Smith wrote:
> <https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/4645-rossi-blog-comment-discussion/?postID=62235#post62235>
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> *I do remember. BTW, eye witness accounts claim that the tube itself is
> transparent, and the electrodes bright silver colour. nothing is visible in
> the gap. I have no idea about sealing or anything else - except that the
> plasma can apparently be made 'any colour you like'. The example shown was
> glowing **yellow** when energised for short periods. That's all the info
> I have.*
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> *Unlike most other observers of Rossi, I know that the QuarkX works
> because its reported behavior fits in with my understanding of how LENR
> works.*
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> New research into polariton condensates has revealed a side emission
> channel that produces light whose frequency is proportional to the density
> of the polariton aggregation...for example, the dense polariton condinsate
> produces a higher frequency light (blue) and a less dense condinsate will
> produce red light. Rossi must have a way to control the density of the
> polariton population.
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> They tackled this problem by highly exciting exciton-polaritons, which are
> particle-like excitations in a semiconductor systems and formed by strong
> coupling between electron-hole pairs and photons. *They observed
> high-energy side-peak emission *that cannot be explained by two
> mechanisms known to date: Bose-Einstein condensation of exciton-polaritons,
> nor conventional semiconductor lasing driven by the optical gain from
> unbound electron hole plasma.
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> The details on this side channel are here
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> High-energy side-peak emission of exciton-polariton condensates in high
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> In summary, eyewitness reports of QuarkX operating characteristics fit my
> technical expectations perfectly in very many ways.
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> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> According to Abd... "All claims dropped on both sides. It is as if the
> suit was never filed. All parties bear their own costs. The action of the
> Agreement was the consent of counsel to settlement without any court order
> other than dismissal, which is final."
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> No agreements were included... so unless they present something otherwise
> in a joint statement, IH retains the original E-Cat License. No money
> changes hands.
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> As for the future of the litigants, it looks like IH paid about $11
> million ++ for a License which according to them is worthless insofar as it
> was never shown to produce excess heat. Add to that the attorney fees and
> we see why many observers consider IH to be the big loser in this.
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> That assumes the IP is really worthless, but it may have value in a
> surprising way, even if Rossi could never make it work. Here is the granted
> patent, and there are a number of applications not granted.
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> https://www.google.com/patents/US9115913
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> Darden raised much more than his losses on the Rossi fiasco and there is a
> small chance that he could make lemonade out of the Rossi lemons, using
> some of it. An interesting development in all of this will be the course
> that IH takes from here on with the remaining money. They are known to have
> been funding others in LENR all along.
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> Of course IH could abandon the field altogether, but maybe they have a
> vision which transcends Rossigate. Possibly the best thing that could
> happen is for Randell Mills to demonstrate strong gain in that SunCell
> device. If it turns out that Mills device is arguably nuclear - it will not
> be covered by the hydrino IP. There have already been "inside" rumors that
> recent delays in the "Mills' Roadshow" are due to radioactivity showing up.
> This is expected in LENR but not in hydrino-tech and it could change the IP
> landscape.
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> Footnote. Rossi's IP covers "Group 10 catalysts" which are nickel,
> palladium and platinum. It does not cover silver, which is being used by
> Mills and is Group 11. Silver is easily activated and perhaps it is
> activated by dense hydrogen. Mills' IP would not cover nuclear reactions.
> This puts him in a bind. If silver is required, but becomes activated, then
> there is an IP storm brewing.
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> If I were advising Darden, it would be to look at quickly expanding the IP
> to fill the gap which exists when Mills can no longer hide the
> radioactivity of the SunCell.
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