On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely > requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible > > This is not an absolute. When polaritons are confined in an optical cavity > over time, FANO interference forces the waveform into a soliton. In other > words, long term confinement of EMF leads to the formation of a BEC through > interference. > I did not know that. But this is only a _virtual_ BEC, no..? > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were >>> generating linear BECs? I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids, >>> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of >>> matter but into the Condensate state of matter. Are there telltale >>> signs of a BEC? >>> >> >> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely >> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible >> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd >> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors: >> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows >> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into >> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides* >> them w/o any friction. >> >> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can >> know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors >> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!) >> :D >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On 7/18/17, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically >>> >> impossible. >>> >> >>> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal. >>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor >>> > >>> > >>> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption >>> is >>> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of >>> matter >>> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase >>> space' >>> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us. >>> > >>> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'... >>> > >>> >>> >> >