But he seems to have installed it in a bell jar.  Whence the ions?



On 3/5/07, Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Borbas believes like many amateur physicists before him that he has disproved 
the ion wind explanation, it's a long story he has been multiposting/spamming 
several dozens of mailing lists with his uninformed theory. He doesn't even 
realize that the air discharge implies an ion current, which implies neutrals 
entrainment i.e. ion wind, this pretty well sums it up.

Michel

P.S. Oh yes I had forgotten my promise to Harry below, my comment was that 
mv^2/r for the satellite can be thought of as a centrifugal force or as a 
centripetal acceleration times mass depending on the frame (it changes sign 
while going from the F side to the m*a side), but not as a centripetal force as 
you had put it. The centripetal force here is gravity of course.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame


> This guy puts his electrodes inside ping pong balls:
>
> http://bmiklos2000.freeweb.hu/unipolar.htm
>
> Terry
>
> On 3/3/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Unshackle and release the prisoner...
>>
>> 2W * 'kV/mm' * 'grams' = 2W * .9 * 100000 = 180000 W = 180 kW
>>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Michel Jullian wrote:
>>
>> > I will only comment when you'll have released the power consumed by the 
100kg
>> > lifter ;-)
>> >
>> > Michel
>>
>>
>



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