Try buying surplus night vision goggles, or another
component that has the device you want. You might be
able to scavenge parts...

Just a thought

G
--- Paul Lowrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> More discoveries.  It appears a HgTe photodiode is
> just about the ultimate 
> material for this research. It has a band gap of
> zero eV!  Various amounts of Cd 
> (Hg[x-1]Cd[x]Te) increases the band gap to whatever
> value you want. Here are 
> some interesting quotes -->
> 
> Quote #1 from WikiPedia:
> ---
> Owing to its cost, the use of HgCdTe has so far been
> restricted to the military 
> field and infrared astronomy research. Military
> technology depends on HgCdTe for 
> night vision. In particular, the US air force makes
> extensive use of HgCdTe on 
> all aircraft, and to equip airborne smart bombs. A
> variety of heat-seeking 
> missiles are also equipped with HgCdTe detectors.
> ---
> 
> Quote #2 from WikiPedia:
> ---
> The main limitation of LWIR HgCdTe-based detectors
> is that they need cooling to 
> temperatures near that of liquid nitrogen (77K),
> ***TO REDUCE NOISE*** due to 
> thermally excited current carriers
> ---
> 
> Note the bold text in Quote #2. This material is so
> noisy they need to cool it 
> to 77K, otherwise the voltage noise is incredible
> ... bingo!
> 
> This is so ironic. Why are most desirable things
> come at such high cost? 
> Everyone loves ice cream, but the calories.  I would
> give just about anything to 
> experiment with a p-n HgTe photodiode, but it's
> ridiculously expensive. Would 
> they even sell it to me?
> 
> Furthermore, this material has ultra wide bandwidth.
> 
> Mercury(II) cadmium(II) telluride (HgCdTe):
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HgCdTe
> 
> band gap image diagram:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HgCdTe_Eg_vs_x.PNG
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Paul Lowrance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Lowrance wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > The following is an important consideration for
> those interested in the
>  > very real upcoming technology that will capture
> significant continuous
>  > energy day or night from ambient temperature
> (surrounding air and Earth).
>  >
>  > Silicon and Germanium are what is called
> *Indirect band gap* material.
>  > This means Si and Ge are inefficient at emitting
> and receiving
>  > radiation.  Although recent technology has made
> it possible to make Si
>  > LED's, but that's more complex.
>  >
>  > The following link contains a very nice table of
> different
>  > semiconductors showing which materials are
> Indirect and Direct band gap -->
>  >
>  >
>
http://www.chemistry.patent-invent.com/chemistry/semiconductor_materials.html
>  >
>  >
>  > Therefore, it seems highly advantageous to
> perform experiments using the
>  > following materials -->
>  >
>  > * Indium Antimonide (InSb) 0.17 eV
>  > * Indium Arsenide (InAs)  = 0.354 eV
>  >
>  > InSb is the best choice for capturing room
> temperature black body
>  > radiation. I believe the above are direct band
> gap materials, which
>  > means they are efficient at receiving and
> emitting radiation.
>  >
>  > It's too bad Germanium is indirect band gap. 
> Sure glad I discovered
>  > this before heading out to buy various Ge diodes.
> :-)  Tom Schum placed
>  > 32 germanium diodes in series, which resulted in
> ~1 uV. What would be
>  > terribly interesting is to see the vast
> difference an InSb or InAs LED
>  > would make.
>  >
>  > It seems unrealistic to use a $108 to $175 MID-IR
> LED for a replicable
>  > experiment.  Very few people would spend $108
> just to verify that
>  > ambient temperature energy is capturable. People
> who already believe
>  > don't need it.  One almost needs to pay a skeptic
> to view an experiment
>  > that goes against their beliefs.
>  >
>  > There is one alternative, and that's the $10 1550
> nm LED, made of
>  > InGaAsP, but I'm not sure present instruments
> could measure the effect
>  > at room temperature. I calculate the effect would
> be ~100 million times
>  > less than the $175 4900 nm LED. The presence of
> Ga greatly increases the
>  > band gap, unfortunately, which is why this LED is
> only 1550 nm.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Paul Lowrance
>  >
> 
> 



 
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