Do post your calculation Ron, if there is an error there is a chance that someone here will spot it.
Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stiffler Scientific" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Maxwell's Demon, naw! >I think you are very close on this, and of course it can be seen on the > meters although the photo is not that clear for the meters. The meter on the > right is outlet#2 and has a calibration error of +.2 DP (Dew Point) and of > course RH% which has less interest until you factor in the temp. > > The goal of the device is indeed a water vapor diverter, yet the temp > increase doe not match well with the energy calculated by the vapor > difference, so you are correct in part, yet I may still have calculation > errors. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Jullian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:54 AM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:Re: Maxwell's Demon, naw! > > > Photo is nice but captions/diagrams would be welcome. > > Water vapor condensation heat could be involved if the two outlets have > different humidity. > > Michel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stiffler Scientific" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:23 PM > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw! > > >> Here is a like to one of the first setups that showed a T increase. >> >> http://www.stifflerscientific.com/images/dd01.jpg >> >> THis may help in showing the basic approach. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:10 AM >> To: Vortex-L >> Subject: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw! >> >> >> Maxwell's Demon, How to know he is working? >> >> Ambient Ta ~ 23.5 'C (input air temp) >> >> Air pump @ 4 PSIG, adds ~ 0.5 'C to air temp., giving working air temp of > Tq >> = 24 'C >> >> Outlet (1) T1 = 24 'C >> Outlet (2) T2 = 24.6 'C (Demon door installed) >> >> >> Outlet 1&2 are both @ 4 PSIG and only difference is the Demon door? >> >> Outlet 1 & 2 reach equilibrium with ambient when pump is off (no air > flow). >> >> All instruments are calibrated to NIST standards and Outlet 1 & 2 will > reach >> equilibrium with ambient with no air flow. No obstructions exist in > outlets, >> except for Temperature and Humidity probes (all the same in each tube). > The >> outlet ports are at the same elevation above test bench. >> >> What is suggested to insure that the Demon may indeed be present? >> >> Will be trying a cascade of the setup to see if the +0.6 'C can indeed be >> increased to a total of +1.2 'C by the addition of the second unit. At the >> present insulations is not being employed. >> >> Any suggesting on what should be tried to determine the anomalous increase >> in temperature? I would think that if it was the Demon that the outlet (1) >> temp should be Tq - 0.6 = T1 ~ 23.4 which is not the case. I would think >> that if the Demon was at work that cooling should also be seen. >> >> So that vorts time is not wasted, I will welcome suggestion via private > mail >> on how the experiment might be monitored so that this strange difference > can >> be found. Unless found to be a stupid measurement error and vorts want >> additional info I will supply a link to the test data. >> >
