R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Stephen Lawrence wrote..

But last night, after being asked to shut up about it or at least watch what the other side has to say, I watched the second half of "Loose Change". After seeing that and reading Jones's paper (posted by Jed) I'm left with three nagging questions,

Howdy Stephen,

Gosh, you got it refined down to only 3 questions ?
Oh goodness -- I mean I had three nagging questions about the conclusion that the WTC collapsed due to aircraft impact!

If I included all the 'nagging questions' I've got about everything I'd never finish writing the list...

The questions regarding Iraq, and Iran, and Osama bin Laden (alive or dead?), and the coincidence of the 'exercise' the morning of 9/11, and Bush's lack of action during the "goats" story, and the apparent coverup of his behavior even though there was nothing that obviously needed "covering up", and the issues surrounding Cheney's use of recently acquired powers to order Norad to "stand down" thus leaving us open to the attack, and ... and ... and ... anyhow none of those have any bearing on what made the buildings collapse. Even if Bush Senior turns out to have been piloting one of the planes (he parachuted out at the last minute, that's why they confiscated all the tapes of the impact that they could find, didn't want anyone to notice the chute opening), it doesn't affect the question of whether the towers collapsed solely due to impact from the aircraft. That stuff's all just politics.

But frozen iron droplets in the dust and the possibility that the fires were not as hot as assumed could both affect our understanding of the collapse. And the "molten steel" in the basement, which is also a physical thing, has been bandied about a lot and remains something I find very hard to comprehend. The politics is slippery and will likely never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction (who ordered the assassination of Lincoln? uh...) but the physics of the collapse should be clear and should have a definite, iron-clad conclusion -- yet there are these loose ends, and they bother me.

(Assuming thermite doesn't help, it makes things worse; the number of loose ends with the thermite scenario is far, far larger IMO. Particle beam weapons similarly could explain a lot of physical things but the political difficulties get completely out of hand with that assumption, and we won't even touch on the question of how such technology could work or where it came from. Assuming an alien attack took place that day might resolve all the nagging questions at once, but Occam's Razor forbids going so far afield.)

Why not add the Iraq scene to the mix ? Consider military tactics and strategies on a grand scale. If you were a US military commander handed this task, how would you fight ?
Luckily the ROTC application I got in the mail many decades ago was horribly thick and I can't deal with paperwork, so I never completed it, never applied for ROTC, and consequently didn't become an officer on graduation, and consequently never served in the military (just missed the Vietnam draft by about a year), so I won't have to answer that question.

There's no question that there's a swamp over there which could use draining but at this point we're up to our necks in alligators and there are strong environmental arguments against just nuking all the 'gators. It's a tough one.

We are watching military science at it's very best that will go down in history. How to contain opposites bent on using any tactic for advantage.
Jeez, Richard, if this is military science at its "best" what's it look like when it's just being sort of normal? And its worst must be unthinkable...


Richard

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