Thanks Bill for this and the many other enlightening contributions you 
regularly treat us to and which we seem to take for granted.

Couldn't a "real" radio receiver be used to see if the lab receives 
significant emissions at 18MHz? How has this freq been determined BTW, I 
thought the circuit didn't tolerate probing?

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Beaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity


> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, William Beaty wrote:
>
>> For enormous Q-factors such as with superconductors, the effective
>> aperture is about a quarter wavelength, and such an antenna absorbs RF
>> energy in an area of 1/8 wavelength squared.
>
> Oops, that should be 1/16 wavelength squared.  For 18MHz, that's an
> absorber region of around sixteen square meters.  An ideal resonant
> antenna absorbs half the RF energy passing through that region, and
> radiates (scatters) the other half.  The antenna can be an extremely tiny
> coil, yet the process still works the same.  So, if some shortwave antenna
> is sending a few milliwatts per square cm through Ron's lab, and his coil
> happens to hit its resonant frequency, then his results are conventional
> and have nothing to do with physics anomalies.
>
> Moving Ron's device to other locations should show the truth.
>
> I see that WP has an entry: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(antenna)
> They say wavelength squared divided by 4*pi, rather than by 16
>
> Another way to think about it:  a standard half-wave dipole antenna works
> the same whether made from #8 wire or #28 wire, yet the broadside area of
> the wire has two very different values.  Why?  Don't these two antennas
> absorb very different amounts of RF, and cast very different RF shadows?
> Nope.  It's because a wire antenna creates it's own EM field, and the
> absorption process involves the waves radiated by the antenna cancelling
> out the incoming EM and punching a large "rf shadow" in the waves passing
> by the antenna.  There's an interference pattern with a big black node
> downstream from the antenna.  Where RF is concerned, the "shadow" of an
> antenna doesn't look like a piece of thin wire, instead it's a fuzzy
> circle about a quarter wavelength across.
>
> BTW this also explains why sodium vapor looks black under sodium light,
> where sodium atoms an angstrom in diameter and couldn't possibly act as
> significant absorbers.  But high-Q resonating atoms can be "virtuall
> large" absorbers of waves which are 5900 angstroms wavelength.  Tiny
> high-Q resonant antennas emit very strong waves of their own, so they act
> the same as wire antennas thousands of times larger.
>
>
>
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