Yeah - even though I'm not North American by birth, I easily saw over the 
years, how much the public had been sucked into Japanese (and European) car 
mode.  And the stupid NA auto manufacturers got just as sucked in and tried to 
compete with the little 4-cyl jobs.  Americans were (and as far as I'm 
concerned still are) masters of the V8 and big 6 engines... I watched a 
documentary on how the NA auto designer boys designed all the "esoteric" cars 
that were around when I first set foot in Canada around 1968.  Outstanding.

So a few months ago I leased a Charger with a HEMI engine (after driving a Ford 
truck for 10 years)...  Excellent car... but politically incorrect.... as if I 
care.

Now if you want to see what the Bean Counters (government Bean Counters, no 
less) did to what could have been outstanding American nuclear power plant 
design by Oppenheimer and his group, read "Disturbing the Universe" by Freeman 
Dyson.  This is what you could call "one-dimensional thinking."

P.

----- Original Message ----
From: R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:33:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Tooo" obvious for Detroit?

Howdy Vorts,
People and their love affairs with their autos. Any fleet operator can show 
records that prove the Chevrolet autos  and small trucks are the best all 
around. We have a chev fleet, we try other brands for experience but  it's 
Chevrolet. Ever see a fleet of Lexus or Mercedes? Or Toyota trucks ? We can 
run a fleet of Chev pickups at near zero maintenance and trade when they 
teach 150,000 miles.
Funny, some have  a metal ID shows  assembled in Jaurez Mexico. Ask anybody 
that uses Toyota and Mercedes what service costs at their dealership.. 
notice one of the billionaires listed in this years survey is a Toyota 
dealer in Texas.
GM had the truck engine that won WW2, a 6 cyl workhorse. Germany built the 
tiger tank, the fighter plane and the 88 long gun but they couldn't build a 
6x6 2 1/2 ton truck.
It was management at GM that sold GM down the river, the poor dumb people 
that worked there just built the best.. thank you Roger Smith for the 
memories, and thank you ITT.
ITT was the Mafia wire service telephone company for the Cuba and south. 
After Castro took over, ITT claimed a loss and was compensated by the US. 
They took the money and bought US companies and hired accountants to parlay 
the cash outa the kazoo.
They were the teachers of tactics practiced by accountants since.
There is not a US insurance company that has a dime in cash in a US bank 
today. GMAC is now owned by HSBC, a Chinese Hong Kong bank run by British 
bankers (but never a US trained accountant)..
 Arthur Anderson CPA and Enron.. no place but Texas.
We should know by the ides of March if the banking and financial system of 
the USA will survive as we know it. The turkeys are trying hard enough to 
destroy it.
Now for the good news...
Richard


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Tooo" obvious for Detroit?


> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>>I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
>>continue.  I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
>>
> I agree, IMHO, it's the MBA's and the lawyers.




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