But Jones, you describe an energy storage and transport method. BLP is proposing an energy source. Would not the Johnson method also make hydrinos and be a variation of the BLP method?

Ed
On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

Here is a rather amazing bit of possible synchronicity, meme- correspondence, or whatever you want to call it... i.e. the JTEC when juxtaposed with other recent postings here on the subject of sodium hydride.

If this is not apparent, let me explain (or else demonstrate to all concerned that I am completely non compos mentis).

The Johnson conversion system depends on a source of hot hydrogen. He anticipates the heat will be solar - and that would be good for half the day ... but.... there is an potential improvement to this.

Sodium hydride - as mentioned is an superb energy carrier - with hydrogen as the medium. But normally you need heat input: i.e. to heat the NaH to a threshold in order to release the hydrogen; however, water will do the trick quite nicely and will also double the amount of available hydrogen.

NaH (solid) + H2O (liquid) --> NaOH (liquid) + H2 (hot gas)

Which is to say that sodium Hydride (NaH) reacts strongly with water releasing Hydrogen (H2) and heat. The resulting residue is Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) which can be recycled.

Sodium Hydroxide when it is further heat-treated, possibly by simply passing it through a solar trough, can be converted back to Sodium Hydride efficiently releasing pure oxygen. A small amount of parasitic current may be needed in addition to the solar heat (not certain on that requirement, as it seems that heat alone could do the trick). In fact there is at least one company which has promoted this very kind of thermochemical cycle. The original idea goes back to the previous century.

This complex cycle is not unlike what Johnson proposes to do directly, but with a two-step chemical intermediary, and with toxicity which would demand extra precaution- but it is not "either- or". There could be a commercial use for both methods.

The possible benefits of the added complexity are that the sodium hydride cycle might do everything more efficiently; and with a further possibility of a second added benefit - if Mills is correct: harnessing the hydrino-heat which could be a huge "bonus". The third bonus comes at night, the 24/7 aspect.

Think of it as a continuous thermochemical loop of sodium hydroxide --> sodium hydride --> hot hydrogen --> electricity - BUT- with lots of hydrogen left over, which can be stored to provide the heat necessary for the nighttime NaH-NaOH cycle and for 24/7 electricity production.

So basically you have what could be a very efficient system which is soooo "green" that it will probably give Randy and the BLP staff fits of envy that they didn't think of it first <g>

Hope that Mr Lonnie Johnson is listening.

Jones

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