Large base load nuclear and coal fired plants are not unresponsive.  They
can reduce load from 100% to 50% in a matter of minutes.  The water volume
is not an issue.

Utilities are about producing power as cheaply as possible.  It is expensive
to run these large units at reduced power for several reasons that go beyond
serious efficiency losses.  Large daily load swings rapidly consume thermal
fatigue life of major components.  In the case of nuclear, some of the main
areas of concern are components that are irreplaceable.  Examples are the
various pipe connections to reactor vessels and steam generators.

Operating coal units at reduced load causes accelerated corrosion of some
components, particularly the regenerative air heater that removes waste heat
from the exhaust gas and transfers the heat to the incoming combustion air.
These air heaters are huge rotating cylinders filled with tons of steel heat
absorbing elements.  At low loads, these heaters suffer cold end corrosion
that rots out the elements requiring expensive repairs.  Low load operation
also causes erosion of expensive control valve seats and cavitation damage.
It is not cost effective to allow wind turbines to force these base load
units into low load operation.

Coal fired plants burn coal dust.  The dust is produced by pulverizing the
coal in huge ball mills then blowing it into the furnace.  This process
approximates the characteristics of a gaseous fuel.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:26 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy News of the Weird: Denmark tilting at windmills

In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:49:46 -0900:
Hi,
[snip]
>The problem most likely is perhaps the utility has too large a base  
>load supply, coal or nuclear, which is unresponsive to load changes.   
[snip]
I agree, however, I don't understand why coal fired plants have to be
unresponsive. It must be due to the mass of the water in the boilers.
If so, then the obvious solution would seem to be to reduce the mass of
water.
This can be done by using lots of thin pipes to carry the water, and by
increasing the flow rate through those pipes.

Another option would be to gasify the coal first as has been variously
proposed,
thus essentially turning the plant into a gas fired plant anyway, and giving
it
the response typical of gas turbines.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html


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