leaking pen wrote:
> More importantly, winters are getting colder, from more open water and
> less ice, causing more reflection back, 

More reflection?  Doesn't sound right.  Do you mean, rather, more radiation?

As in, lower albedo means radiative cooling proceeds faster, not just
radiative warming.


> and summers hotter, melting
> the ice, repeating the cycle.
> 
> look at summer data, and winter data.  hotter in summer, colder in
> winter, than previous.  This is why its called global climate change.
> its not JUST warming...
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> thomas malloy wrote:
>>
>>>> You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity
>>>> of global warming observations.
>>> You do realize, I hope, that this has been an ongoing pattern this year.
>> An ongoing pattern where? In your state? In North America? This is not the
>> worldwide trend. Temperatures in Japan and Europe, for example, remain at
>> record highs this year.
>>
>> Also, trends that last only one year do not count. You have to look for
>> broader, longer trends. There have been several cold years in the last few
>> decades, but there have been many more hot years and the average is higher
>> than previous norms.
>>
>> Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes
>> including colder than normal temperatures in winter.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
> 

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