I think I figured it out... Grok is not a real person. It’s a mediocre computer sci student's implementation of the Turing Test! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
Barely passing grade if you ask me. But it'd probably keep the shrinks busy for a few hours. ;-) -Mark -----Original Message----- From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> mounted the barricade and roared out: > >> I think salient question is "What makes people feel frightened and > >> insecure"? > > > >It is indeed a salient question. Nevertheless, I think I would prefer > >to explore what makes us happy. ... > People are happy when they get what they want, and they want to have > their cake and eat it too. :) > > Pure socialism epitomizes fairness. Pure capitalism epitomizes freedom. That's a completely false juxtaposition. 'License' is not Freedom -- even tho' the capitalists make it their business to see to it that people do not make the distinction. Fact is, socialism is about Fairness AND Freedom -- because for one thing: being fair is all about being free. Think about it. To wit: > What people really want is both fairness and freedom. They need not be > totally mutually exclusive, but they must be to some extent. The point has been well-made that true freedom comes with understanding the real and concrete limits imposed by necessity -- i.e. it is only a false, ideal image we have of any 'Freedom' that doesn't have much, if anything, to do with real life. Understanding real limits allows us to understand just how we are _actually_ free in any meaningful sense. > IOW we will never be totally happy. The problem with idealist thinking is that it deals in abstract absolutes - -- which have not much to do with Reality. People will be as happy as any animal can be, under communism (never for long, if ever, under capitalism). And who could want more. ;> - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn5E0QACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HDiwCdF2lI24TyVZEvovifVwjPu3Ot MzIAnRJ2wy2josDnxurvxwbpH4xvG2P6 =tPgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.8/2086 - Release Date: 4/29/2009 6:37 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.8/2086 - Release Date: 4/29/2009 6:37 AM
