The irony is science cannot happen without a supportive political framework. Harry
----- Original Message ----- From: leaking pen <itsat...@gmail.com> Date: Monday, June 8, 2009 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here > the difference between science and hard facts, and politics and > opinion? > seems easy to me. > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David > Jonsson<davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How do you make the differentiation between politics and physics? > Hard.> > > Best wishes, > > David > > > > On 6/8/09, William Beaty <bi...@eskimo.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Mark S Bilk wrote: > >> > >>> So anyone who speaks out against U.S. government policies is well > >>> justified in doing so anonymously. In this case anonymity does > _not_>>> mean: > >>> > >>> >>"probably criminal element" ..."teenager," or "newbie user." > >> > >> Then I'll permanently ban him from both lists, as well as > everyone else > >> who attempts to make that sort of politics the central feature of > >> vortex-L. He can quietly come back with a real name, talk > science, and > >> make no attempt to attract the FBI to the vortex forum. > >> > >> And I suggest you think twice about making excuses for such slimy > >> dishonest behavior. There are THOUSANDS of very serious > problems in the > >> world, and self-promoters invariably use this fact as an excuse > to push > >> their personal agendas into forums devoted to other subjects. > Get rid of > >> all the science here? Since you personally have FAR more > important topics > >> that need to dominate the discussions? But note well that the > people>> trying this are never creating their own forums and > calling for users. > >> Instead they invade other lists and ignore the existing > community while > >> hiding their intent behind dishonest excuses. It's a common > Troll trick. > >> > >> Take such discussion to your own new forum, or to any number of > politics- > >> centered lists, or just vtxB, keep it OFF this one. > >> > >> After a few weeks or months this idea might sink in, and we can > go back to > >> normal. > >> > >> In the mean time: producing ionizing radiation with light water > >> electrolysis: simple enough for a school science fair, but > nobody bothers > >> to give it a try: > >> > >> http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/368TGP_oriani.pdf > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) > )))))))))))))))))))>> William J. Beaty > SCIENCE HOBBYIST website > >> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com > >> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, > sci fair > >> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, > weird sci > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370 > > > > > >
