im sorry, science has happened with a downright COMBATIVE political framework. large scale corporate science, now that takes a sociopolitical framework for funding and such.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Harry Veeder<hvee...@ncf.ca> wrote: > The irony is science cannot happen without a supportive political framework. > Harry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: leaking pen <itsat...@gmail.com> > Date: Monday, June 8, 2009 12:53 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here > >> the difference between science and hard facts, and politics and >> opinion? >> seems easy to me. >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David >> Jonsson<davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > How do you make the differentiation between politics and physics? >> Hard.> >> > Best wishes, >> > David >> > >> > On 6/8/09, William Beaty <bi...@eskimo.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Mark S Bilk wrote: >> >> >> >>> So anyone who speaks out against U.S. government policies is well >> >>> justified in doing so anonymously. In this case anonymity does >> _not_>>> mean: >> >>> >> >>> >>"probably criminal element" ..."teenager," or "newbie user." >> >> >> >> Then I'll permanently ban him from both lists, as well as >> everyone else >> >> who attempts to make that sort of politics the central feature of >> >> vortex-L. He can quietly come back with a real name, talk >> science, and >> >> make no attempt to attract the FBI to the vortex forum. >> >> >> >> And I suggest you think twice about making excuses for such slimy >> >> dishonest behavior. There are THOUSANDS of very serious >> problems in the >> >> world, and self-promoters invariably use this fact as an excuse >> to push >> >> their personal agendas into forums devoted to other subjects. >> Get rid of >> >> all the science here? Since you personally have FAR more >> important topics >> >> that need to dominate the discussions? But note well that the >> people>> trying this are never creating their own forums and >> calling for users. >> >> Instead they invade other lists and ignore the existing >> community while >> >> hiding their intent behind dishonest excuses. It's a common >> Troll trick. >> >> >> >> Take such discussion to your own new forum, or to any number of >> politics- >> >> centered lists, or just vtxB, keep it OFF this one. >> >> >> >> After a few weeks or months this idea might sink in, and we can >> go back to >> >> normal. >> >> >> >> In the mean time: producing ionizing radiation with light water >> >> electrolysis: simple enough for a school science fair, but >> nobody bothers >> >> to give it a try: >> >> >> >> http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/368TGP_oriani.pdf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) >> )))))))))))))))))))>> William J. Beaty >> SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >> >> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com >> >> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, >> sci fair >> >> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, >> weird sci >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370 >> > >> > >> >> > >
