AGREED!

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:

> *Sorry, you are absolutely right. I suggest this is the way the list can
> be handled without Bill having to get involved at all.*
>
> Ed
>
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Alexander Hollins wrote:
>
>  And at this point, this part of the conversation should move to B or
>> stop completely.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Edmund Storms<stor...@ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you know this? What aspect of his behavior to you find normal?  Of
>>> course everyone has quarks. The issue is the degree and consistency of
>>> these
>>> characteristics.  In addition, I'm using this word as a catchall.
>>> Insanity
>>> has many characteristics too numerous to discuss here. My point is only
>>> that
>>> Grok does not show normal behavior in that his reality cannot be changed
>>> by
>>> rational discussion and he shows an addiction to a very characteristic
>>> pattern of behavior.  While more information is needed to discover if he
>>> is
>>> physically harmful to himself and others, the usual concern, his harm in
>>> the
>>> circumstance we experienced is obvious.  Of course, he might just be a
>>> jerk
>>> who likes to cause trouble. Even if this is true, I would rather treat
>>> him
>>> as if he were insane, which simplifies dealing with him.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:08 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Discussion/Debate: Creating [VoT] to handle OT
>>>> discussions.
>>>>
>>>>  I agree with John, managing and contributing to one list is hard
>>>>> enough without adding to the problem by using multiple lists. Most
>>>>> people on this list are adults and should be able to agree on
>>>>> something so simple as when political or religious discussion gets
>>>>> to
>>>>> be too much without forcing a total ban on both.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the effect that Grok had on this group to be discouraging.
>>>>> If
>>>>> one insane person can cause such turmoil on such a small scale to
>>>>> intelligent people, I rest my case about the damage they do to the
>>>>> world in general and the need to understand this type of behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grok may be unflattering and annoying but he is not insane.
>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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