Note: I replied to this initially believing I was replying to a list I
joined for the Gray conversion tube, so it's slanted in that direction.
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Looks like a load of BS to me. Ask him to demonstrate his on-demand
> lightning strike routine to you, but don't hold your breath until he
> does :)
Well, that part may be provable.
You see he reported telling some branch of local government about his
invention and he wrote so many letters they finally built it and then there
was some incredible number of lightening strikes reported to hit the
building in the newspaper.
I believe this could be reasonably confirmed, I think it was in Canada?
But Stiffler did replicate the experiment on a small scale and got the other
reported effects.
And in the patent on which JLN appears as co-inventor they claimed success.
And There is the Pavel patent with the same concept the claims minus
lightening strike.
And then it would make more sense of Edwins conversion tube than any other
theory as argued above, any theory that has the grid acting as a collector
which is the popular theory fails to make any sense of the wide spacing of
the "collector" wires or the capacitor and transformer in series with the
grid.
And finally while it isn't enough to be sure but it would make a lot of
sense of the "Swiss ML" device and quotes that Paul Baumann gives than any
other theory I have heard.
That and it is well known that the arcs from Tesla coils and various other
disruptive discharges project electrons around the area in a radiative
fashion that can't be explained by ion wind, that fact alone should be
enough to come to the same conclusion even if you had not come across
Hiddink's claim.
With the Edwin's tube for instance it isn't worth questioning that electrons
are leaving the center electrode/carbon/arc as all the theories so far say
they do, merely whether energy is made by the electrons leaving and
therefore changing the capacity of the grid, or by the grid collecting the
charges. It would without question be possible to recover energy either way
(or both) but IMO it seems to be designed to do the former and avoid the
latter.
>
>
> Removal of the outside sphere in a spherical capacitor is not
> complicated BTW, just do it by bits. Only beware it takes work
> (energy) to pull the opposite charges of a capacitor apart.
Indeed, but the work in this case is provided for by the collapsing plasma
which appears to be a free effect that we don't need to pay for.
>
> Michel
>
> 2009/6/16 John Berry <aethe...@gmail.com>
> >
> > The invention is based on Faraday's problem:
> > Two concentric metal spheres do not touch and form a capcitor C.
> > That one is charged up to a potential V.
> > Then the outside sphere is removed.
> > The remaining sphere is a 1-terminal Capacitor c.
> > The potential on that sphere is momentarily C/c x V.
> >
> > It is stated in the physics Books that it is virtually impossible to do
> in practice, so when I offered the Invention to Canada in 1967 as a Birthday
> Present, I was told that I was not a Patriot, I was an Idiot. It could
> never, ever be done in practice.
> > The "Scientists" kept the denial, accompanied with ridicule and insults,
> up to four months after the patents were granted.
> > Then, as they had lost "face", they called it a Minor Invention.
> > My US Patent Lawyer predicted the Nobel Prize.
> >
> > I read that you have a large fluorescent tubw. That may not work.
> > That powder that is pasted to the glass will hinder the proper working in
> thia circuit.
> > Maybe you can get a UV tube and wrap some Aluminum foil on the outside.
> > When that tube is fired you have a 2-terminal Capacitor, which you can
> charge up to an higher DC Voltage.
> > Now you can use "Momentarily On" type Toggle switches but you cannot
> activate them using your bare hands. You must use plastic rods. Otherwise
> you may break your arm like I almost did when I used one tube and got a
> 150,000 volt poke. The switches would stand 250 V in insulation but not that
> type of voltage.
> > The easiest way to make a power supply is:
> > Use a 12 Volt Car battery. Construct a transistor convertor, that runs in
> a frequency of around 400 c/s. You can use 60 c/s but then the next part of
> the high voltage may get too warm.
> > If you have the Reference Book for Radio Engineers, you will find a
> circuit for a ladder/ multiplier circuit. In my edition there was a mistake.
> Make sure that the "(" part of the capacitor is not connected to the + side
> in the circuit. I used capacitors that were about .047, rated at 400 volts.
> I got from a bunch of them around 4,000 volts, with a tap at 1200 Volts to
> fire the tube.
> > Now, when I did it from my basement workshop, using only one tube, I
> fired the tube, used the second toggle switch to charge the capacitor and
> next released the switches. I got a heck of a poke, an explosion was heard
> outside and the lights went out.
> > I went ouside and found the big Power Transformer on a pole, 150 feet
> away, in flames. All of sudden there were two American Fighter planes, from
> the base in Rochester , across Lake Ontario from my hometown Ajax, circling
> my house. The guys flew as slow as possible and they were craning their
> necks to see if they could see something. After a few minutes they left. I
> was called out and when I came home, a new Power Transformer had been
> installed. Luckily the Power Company blamed a squirrel. My TV and HiFi had
> been zapped. I bought a slew of transistors and fixed both sets.
> > I measured the output of the unit in my Faraday Cage and found that I had
> generated 150,00 volts. A few weeks later I used three tubes, using plastic
> rods to activate the circuit. A scream from the kids, above my basement
> workshop, informed me that the TV was on the blink again and so was the
> HiFi. Then the telephones started to ring. All my neigbors, left, right,
> across the road and behind me wondered if I could have a look at their TV.
> Being one of these ultra "Good" type of neighbors I fixed all sets for free
> but did not experiment at home anymore.
> > Next experiment was in the "sticks", the countryside.
> > I noticed a gaggle of Canada Geese in a Cornfield, where they were
> sampling the quality of the ears.
> > I parked under a tree. I connected the output of the unit wih a wire to
> Dogscrew, whith I put in the ground. It had been raining hard one half hour
> before but now the sky was blue. I measured the polarity of the ground, it
> wss negative. I figured that if I made the ground positive, these Geese
> should fly up.
> > I went inside my truck and gave one pulse. One Goose flew up.
> > The second pulse made them all fly up. The third pulse invited a
> lightning strike on the tree, set it on fire, scared the daylights out of me
> and some poor rough-looking farm dogs, that had just arrived to check my
> credentials. They were instantly transformed into the fastest whippets you
> have ever seen. After ten minutes the fire extinguished and I went home.
> The three tubes generated 500,000 Volts.
> >
> > So, if you do any experimenting you should do it in an closed, all-metal
> garden shed. First make sure, that all the metal parts are electrically
> connected. Remove your digital watch and your cell phone. If you have a tube
> Radio, you can have that going but no transistorized anythings (I hope you
> do not have a heart pacer, or it will be the last thing you do.).
> > When I did it, there was only a little bit of "transitorized" in the
> electronics but now you can zap TV's, Computers and Cell Phones!
> > Even your Car computer!
> > You will understand why I did not want a University involved. Any student
> with a grudge could zap all the files and work of years.
> > The lawyers will have a feast day if they find out.
> >
> > This is the device, that is inside these big spheres that Flying Saucers
> have. In many newer crafts you do not see the spheres but hey are there!
> >
> > The instant High Voltage depends on the fast extinguishing of the tube.
> > A fluoresent tube will have that fluoresing going for a while and mess up
> your experment.
> >
> > I got an e-mail from someone,who was doing it on his kitchen table. He
> had it running, usuing a small motor to activate the swithes, stood up to
> get a cup of coffie from the stove. A kind of lightning strike hit the unit,
> gave his wife almost a heart attack and destroyed the kitchen table.
> > His TV was on the blink too.
> > So you will understand that it is not a toy.
> > I suggested to Dr. Teller, who was working on an anti-missile missile,
> that they should equip it with this device. Any attacking missile would have
> lt's electronics destroyed. They tried it, it worked. It is known as the
> E-Bomb.
> > Then someone from his group sold the invention for good money to an
> "friendly" country. That "friendly" country used it successfully to destroy
> a Japanese Spy Satellite.
> > Then the USA DOD refused to pay me, as the secrecy was compromised.
> > The seller lives now in luxury in a South American Country without
> extradiction policies with the USA.
> > Now everybody is equipping the missiles with miniature tubes.
> >
> > When I sent a copy of the Patent to the Nasa Propulsion Lab in Cleveland,
> Ohio, the guys were aghast;
> > Who would need them if we could fly to the Moon in an hour, no matter
> where it was located, without heat-shields, barf-bags or osteoporosis.
> > They were bein ppaid big bucks and were not going t kill the Goose that
> laid Golden Eggs. "Not Interested, thank you for the copy of your Patent!"
> >
> > Then we had the space disasters.
> > They decided to experiment with it, did not ask me for advice and blew
> the big Power Transformer Sation on their grounds to Kingdom Come and blamed
> a poor innocent little tree for the big black-out in parts of the USA and
> Canada, four years ago.
> >
> > So since then they will fight tooth and nail to make sure that every
> space craft will use rockets.
> >
> > Tesla used an application of the invention to tap power out of the aether
> for his electric Piece Arrow Car in 1931. He refused to divulge how it
> worked as he realixed that the system could also be used to supply electric
> power to any dwelling on earth. The investors of the Niagara Falls Power
> Plant, Pierpont Morgan and Rockefeller, would have had him murdered then and
> there. He did not take a patent out but I did.
> >
> > I am now slowly working on a systen to supply home power first.
> >
> >
> > Well John, I hope that you have enough info to try one and another.
> > Let me know how everything pans out.
> > Regards, Joseph Hiddink
>
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