Jed,

Without seeing a lot more heat data, I have to agree, it is difficult to derive any meaning from this and that there is, as you say, "practically no real-time correlation to the helium." We also are missing a lot of information about their method of helium sampling.

Steve



At 08:29 PM 2/23/2010, you wrote:

I think that is clearer. You can see that the power levels are really not that varied, and there is practically no real-time correlation to the helium. Actually, the error bars are probably even larger because the instrument is at the limits of detection. At higher levels both accuracy and precision improve. That's true of most instruments. Plus, I have no doubt the helium levels really do vary, and this is not just an instrument artifact, for the reasons given in the document: different amounts of helium are captured in the near surface layers of the metal, depending on complex factors. That is well established. You have to go to great lengths to recover all of the helium. During the run the stuff will suddenly vent at odd times, presumably when a crack forms.

This is how marginal experimental data looks. If the correlation was better than this I would begin to suspect someone doctored the data. With an instrument that can detect 1 ppb minimum, the difference between 1 and 3 ppb is hardly meaningful. On the other hand the difference between 100 ppb and 101 ppb is more significant and reliable.

- Jed


At 07:10 AM 2/24/2010, you wrote:
I wrote:

You can see that the power levels are really not that varied, and there is practically no real-time correlation to the helium.

Also bear in mind those are instantaneous power levels, and there is no telling what it was doing in the instant before they were taken. For example, data point #2, 11-29-93 is 35 mW. It might have been 50 mW sometime earlier, which would explain why there is more helium in the cell than there was with data point #1 even though the power level is the same. Cold fusion power does not fluctuate wildly, but it does fluctuate. Also, as I said, the helium you measure at any given moment might have been generated hours or days before, and it is just escaping now through a newly opened crack.

You need much higher, more steady power to establish the ratio of helium to heat more accurately.

- Jed



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