Jack says: Counter-theory othe than 'Nuclear'// a la' very-long-term natural warming/counter-ice-age warming with 'notable human assist.'
Aside from all other fossil fuel usage ref: One 747 leaving LA-X uses more oxygen on 'take-off alone' than every personal gasoline powered vehicle in the entire Los Angeles Metropoliton area burns in an entire week. The daily Air-Traffic-Grid usage graph/map literally 'blackens the skys'(on paper) every single day world wide. Case in point: In commercial conventional aircraft oxygen consumption the upper atomosphere takes the 'heavy-depletion-hit' which obviously is daily thinning the upper-atmospheric rate 'hugely.' And it logically follows that if upper-atmospheric lack of oxygen atoms allows 'far-less' ultra-violet O2 atom strikes then much less resulting O3 oxygen will be created to buffer said ultra-violet radiation and subsequently a profound 'ex-tra' than cyclic warming trend-acceleration is the logical result. A counterd-offset of global warming is that we tend to prevent yearly rather huge(otherwise natural lightening ignited) forest burnoff by modern efforts at fire-prevention, & retardation, & fire-fighting. In the 'pre-man' past yearly continental burn-offs were business-as-usual. And now they are not. This tends to offset/negate the coal-power & vehicle fossil fuel issue. The 'Nuclear' issue is not particularly implicit relatively to promoting-allowing the aforementioned solar/ultra-violet radiation accelerated penetration of the atmosphere which by-far is the central mankind/assisted global warming issue. However; the issue of massive daily fossil-fuel drinking/burning modern conventional global air-transportation jet-aircraft is the 'elephant in the dining room' that we seem to conveniently to ignore. And because of this voluntary denial we tend to give much more credence to the more 'exotic/pop' global-warming theories than they merit. Bottom line: Non fossil fuel Advanced Propulsion technologies for military(already reality) & more specifically for commericial applications are crucial to our global 'carbon footprint problem' and need to be unveiled publically immediately. Black-project prohibitions have prevented such as Boeing, BAE, Lockheed-Martin, & Northrup-Grumman from forwarding the building of massive commerical fleets of Advanced Propulsion Airliners being constructed. These designs have already been R & D'd and will be produced immediately when Black-Ops prohibitions have been removed. Probably the U.S. will have to see wingless-quiet-superspeed Russian Airliners(or maybe French) be unveiled at the next global 'air-show' before the finally get the 'message.' More's the pity when we should be leading the World; but maybe that was simply the dream of yester-year and the U.S. is sliding sadley into it's 'post-World-Power' twilight. The other 'elephant in the dining room' is that this very same 'Advanced Propulsion Technology' would obviate all other types global power-grid powerplants including Nuclear, Coal, etc. which would take care of the Kr85 problem as well, long term. But even so; methinks that even without the mankind's help we are naturally trending to a cycle of non-ice-cap Earth which will likely gyro-stabilize the planet and ultimately trend to at least a co-cycle were the seasonal-axial wobble is stabilized/canceled. Of course this will be planetarily traumatic/coastlines-etc.; and an advanced virtually limitless energy Power-Access-Technology would be very helpful methinks to our being able to 'adapt' to the likely coming extreme alterations/transition-tauma that Space-Ship-Terra is due to be experiencing. Not becoming extinct as a species would be desirable, I think; but that's just me . . . Jack Harbach O'Sullivan > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:43:12 +0000 > From: tj...@centurytel.net > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:melting polar ice > > > Hi All, 9-20-10 > > I curious what you think of the enclosed below. > > Jack Smith > > ---------------- > > Leroy Ellenberger <c.le...@rocketmail.com> wrote on > 9-20-10: > > ``Subject: [velikov] The Mechanics of Catastrophe: > Greenland & Antarctica > > There is little doubt that the polar ice is melting. There > is however, considerable room for debate about why. The > conventional view that the whole earth is getting warmer > because of a supposed "greenhouse effect" from a build-up > of CO2 in the atmosphere from combustion of fossil fuels > is not really supported by the evidence. Neither is the > usual dismissal of the warming trend as only another stage > in a long-term natural cycle caused by variation in the > output of solar energy. > > The warming of the poles is clearly of human origin, > but is also clearly NOT caused by any "greenhouse effect" > from burning of coal and oil. What I think it is, is the > widespread use of nuclear power. > > The reprocessing of nuclear reactor fuel rods releases > a radioactive gas, Kr85, into the atmosphere. This gas > goes up to higher levels, so it is considered harmless > to life at the surface. No effort is therefore made to > contain it. As a radiuoactive gas, it consists of charged > particles. > > When charged particles enter the field of a magnet, they > migrate to the poles. Since the earth is a giant bar > magnet, the Kr85 tends to collect at the poles. There, > at high altitudes, it interacts with the natural high > charge at that altitude, resulting in a net increase in > charge of the poles. > > Strong tropical storms, including those that become > strong enough to be classed as huricanes, form near > the equator. These storm systems are highly charged > systems. How far they travel toward the poles depends > on two factors: the strength of the charge of the storm, > and that of the pole that is attracting them poleward. > > As charge builds up at the poles, these tropical storms > are being attracted farther and farther towartd the poles, > bringing tropical heat with them. This transport of heat > from the tropics toward the poles is warming up the polar > regions and giving the illusion that the entire earth is > getting warmer ... > > Anyone interested in further and more detailed > discussion of this hypothesis and relatedideas > is invited to join the Orgonomic Ecology List at > orgonomicecology-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk'' > > On Sun, 9/19/10, Leroy Ellenberger <c.le...@rocketmail.com> > wrote: > > ``The September 30th issue of ROLLING STONE magazine > (cover photo of Roger Waters) runs a very detailed and > informative article by Ben Wallace-Wells whose cover > extolls: "Vanishing Ice Sheets: Global Warming's Ticking > Time Bomb": > > ON THE ICE: The world's two great ice sheets are melting > faster than anyone believed possible > > THE MECHANICS OF CATASTROPHE: Scientists suspect that the > world's glaciers are held in place by huge ice shelves, > which act like corks in a champagne bottle. As the shelves > crash into the sea, the glaciers behind them are sliding > out into the ocean at an alarming rate > > THE NEW SCIENCE indicates that melting glaciers could turn > 153 million people into refugees. "Nature is resolving > some of these arguments for us," says one geoscientist. > > Something had changed: Fish that favor warmer waters began > appearing in unprecedented numbers off Greenland. > > The article starts on p. 60 and runs for eleven pages. I > could not find a URL to an on-line version.'' > >