Actually, diluted Kr 81 is available commercially and (normally) has a fairly 
low decay rate.  Chemically speaking, this mixture is utterly 
non-reactive--therefore, nontoxic.  I believe it is usually diluted into Argon 
gas and is not terribly radioactive.  The average house in my town is more 
contaminated by Radon gas. In contrast, your house is already filled with 
highly-radioactive, highly-chemically reactive Americium in the form of smoke 
detectors.  (A few years ago, a private citizen actually collected enough smoke 
detectors to make a small breeding reactor the Tri-City Area of Washington 
State!) I'm not sure, but I believe that Kr 81 is still used in Vacuum Tube 
applications to keep the gas near the filaments ionized.  (Yes, true 
audiophiles still prefer vacuum tubes since they transmit both odd and even 
harmonics,  unlike solid-state!)
Raney nickel and similar preparations is used in many labs.
Raney Nickel is a common feature of any lab that is working on just about any 
Chemical Catalysts.  Besides, there is no fire hazard if the Raney Nickel is 
just kept in an inert gas (like Argon and Kr 81.
Informal results wouldn't get published, but would nonetheless help in getting 
the right people to perform better experiments.   It shouldn't matter what you 
are using, if introducing a gas to an evacuated jar that 
Scott


From: jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why not Kr 85 and Raney Nickel experiment?
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:20:00 -0800
















From:
Wm. Scott Smith 

 

Ø  Why
hasn't anybody tested Kr 81 or 85 in activated Raney Nickel powder to see if
the decay rate changes

 

Hmm … let me count a
few of the reasons

 

1)    Lack of funding and proper facilities

2)    Even if you have a fume hood and vacuum sealed glove box, this would
be dangerous

3)    Requires a NRC license and buying enough gas, in the amounts
needed to pressurize a sample, is very expensive. 

4)    Even with a license and a willing supplier, ordering any such
material arouses suspicion of Dept of HS 

5)    For anyone who does not want the attention – a few radioactive
gases could be extracted from ore, or collected/ manufactured in situ but this 
creates problems for anyone
wanting to replicate.

6)    There is no assurance that Krypton would absorb into Raney nickel
without pressurization in the first place, and loading usually requires lots of
gas, which then contaminates all your equipment.

7)    If you were going to do the experiment at all; using reproducible
technique, tritium would probably be preferable, and all of the same negatives 
apply.

8)    Even a wildly successful experiment would absolutely NOT be published
in a peer reviewed journal, unless you worked for a National Lab.

9)    Activated Raney nickel itself is as almost as dangerous to handle
as an explosive – witness Rossi’s two fires that burned down the entire
labs.

 

There are probably more
reasons than this, but a fair appraisal of the risks involved would lead me to
think that it would require $150,000 minimum, and half of that goes to cleanup
and disposal.

 

IMO – if all you
want is the results for internal use – it would best be done with radon
derived from natural sources (pitchblende ore) mixed with un-activated Raney
and activated in a disposable reactor. There would be cross comparison with a
control. This makes the experiment hard to calibrate and open to criticism.

                                          

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