--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [Vo]:The New Thorium Cycle ? To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 9:52 PM Thanks for the information George. As you know, there is little way to avoid "further speculation" in this group, but I am going to try to abstain, as it is probably counterproductive at this stage. Jones What about this comment found at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread459969/pg1 The Nazi Bell was in fact an Accelerator Driven nuclear reactor (ADS device) to breed Uranium U233 from Thorium 232 for an A-bomb. Nazi Germany was not in 1944 looking for anti-gravity breakthroughs. Anyone who follows the history of Nazi Germany will realise that Germany had very limited resources and in 1944, all efforts were being directed towards breakthough wonder weapons. In particular huge resources were poured into nuclear weapons development. Dornberger disclosed under British internment that Hitler had told him the V2 was destined to have a far more important warhead than mere explosives. Nazi Germany faced a long uphill slog to create an A-bomb from plutonium or uranium enrichment, but with a high energy Proton generator in the Nazi bell, Germany could bombard Thorium 232 to produce Uranium 233 which could easily be used in a gun detonator type, A-bomb. By using Thorium the Nazis could breed Uranium 233 for a bomb without costly enrichment. The ADS reactor is a whole lot smarter and faster than building Oak Ridge and Hanniford etc. You don't need to enrich Uranium with an ADS. Throw in some Thorium oxide and some Beryllium oxide. Spin some mercury around it under very high voltage and the Beryllium donates neutrons to the Thorium to become Uranium 233. So simple. -----Original Message----- From: George Holz Jones Beene wrote: [JB] There are some heavy hitters in DoE and the major Universities behind thorium as a replacement for uranium. But that is for use in an expensive breeding cycle which has most of the negatives of any fission scheme. [GH] The company behind the thorium + uranium cycle is Lightbridge. The improvements this fuel provides are very significant and solve many of the major problems with present reactors with just a change in the fuel rods. Read about the technology on their website. http://www.ltbridge.com/technologyservices/fueltechnology/designs [snip] [GH] At the risk of encouraging further speculation, here are some more details about the Cincinnati Group results. The device used zirconium electrodes and high current AC electrolysis resulting in both high temperature (280 F) and significant pressure ( 4 atm.) inside the bolted together mostly metal device. Extensive analysis work was done in several labs mostly by ICP/MS. The starting solution was thorium nitrate. The thorium was apparently transformed into titanium and copper with 10x as much titanium as copper. The isotopic ratios of both elements were very far from normal. Much information is available in IE Vol. 3 No. 13 & No. 14 double issue 1997. George Holz Varitronics Systems
