Thanks for the response. I think the chance the technology is a fraud is very, very low. I would say less than 1%. I'm at the point where I think anyone who thinks this is a fraud must have an agenda, be a paid troll, or have a severe case of pathological skepticism.
I'm not too concerned about the devices that blew up. I think that happened when they were running in self sustain mode or in a very high power condition. I think there are obvious safety mechanisms that can prevent such explosions. Such as placing plugs in the device that melt at a certain temperature that would release nitrogen or other inert gases into the reactor. Or such a plug could allow hydrogen to vent into the atmosphere reducing the pressure and reducing the reaction. I'm also impressed by the fact that so far not a single test of the system has failed. Actually, not a single test has been less than a success. Even the test in which one of the resistors broke produced a large amount of gain! Rossi also claims that Greece has granted all safety certifications and will be allowing the sale of the units. This tells me that they must be satisfied the systems are not producing significant amounts of radiation. We may disagree on how Rossi should go about developing the technology, but I appreciate you providing some sanity to this forum. ________________________________ From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:57:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:FAKE or REAL -- April test -- NO Chemical Fakes eliminated noone noone <thesteornpa...@yahoo.com> wrote: I do not know why some people keep bringing up the notion that this technology is a fake. It is not rational in my opinion. > It seems odd to me, as well. I am much more worried about other aspects of the technology, such as: 37 devices blew up; the device may not be as reproducible as Rossi hopes; performance may not be as stable as he thinks; and some radioactive product might show up. There is a still a remote possibility that it is fraud, but that is far down on the list of things that worry me. I do not understand why people are so obsessed with this possibility. Do you know of any other fake cold fusion claims? I don't. Why would anyone suppose that this particular one, out of all those hundreds, happens to be fake? I guess because it is so dramatic, but it was reasonable to think -- or at least hope -- that a dramatic breakthrough would come sooner or later. Ni-H has long been stuck at that back of the pack, with low power density and poor reproducibility, but everyone I know has been taking it seriously since Mills, Piantelli and Patterson. Rossi just happens to be the first to try the Arata technique with Ni-H. He did a splendid job of it. It is not a bit surprising it works; it is only surprising that it works this well. (I have no idea whether he was directly inspired by Arata, or even knew of his work before the patent was drafted. I would love to find out.) I also do not understand why people are so concerned about Rossi's personality and his quirks. That worried me a lot last year, when there was no proof of his claims, but now that we have independent verifications who cares what kind of person he is? He could be a pathological liar, but thermocouples and weight scales "are not built to comprehend a lie." Personality should only be considered when we have nothing else to go on. Any number of scientists and genius programmers are ever stranger than Rossi. Some of the other people in cold fusion are mad scientists from Central Casting. I won't mention any names. Actually, the fraction of strange people may not be much higher in cold fusion than in other walks of life. Look at automobile salesmen, grocery cashiers, data entry clerks, Japanese farmers, or airplane pilots and you will find many strange people. There's naught so queer as folk. Let me add that if Alan Fletcher were to turn his considerable powers of analysis toward Pd-D cold fusion, I am pretty sure he can prove it might well be fake. If he will examine the plasma fusion program or the Top Quark claim, he can prove these things must be fake. There is practically no evidence for them! Plasma fusion "excess power" is a tiny fraction of input. There has not been a single independent verification for these claims, never mind an independent replication. Plus, as Stephen A. Lawrence pointed out, the Brown's Ferry nuclear plant was recently revealed to be a gigantic hoax: "They're using DIESEL POWER to run them? Jeez, all these years and they STILL haven't closed the loop on a so-called 'nuclear reactor'? That's SUCH a red flag..." - Jed
