If light exerted a negative pressure on certain materials you would have a
violation of the laws of motion and with it the conservation of energy as
you could make a device that produces thrust from emitting and reabsorbing
the same light.


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Wm. Scott Smith <scott...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Just calculating the energy density of a single wavelength appears to give
> us infinite mass-energy at a point as the particle size approaches zero.
> John Wheeler pointed out that one cannot *physically *go smaller than the
> planck length for a wavelength size, because the Universe would collapse
> into a giant black hole at these neutron-star type mass-energy densities.
>
> Cosmologically speaking, others worry that allowing wavelengths that are
> quite a bit larger than that would make the universe expand out of control.
> Now I don't know if somehow these two considerations balance each other out.
> All I know is that ZPE proponents have argued that very small wavelengths
> exist, but are somehow gravitationally neutral or that their Gravitational
> attraction "wears out" as we consider ever-smaller sizes. I have heard that
> "around" the size where the em wavelengths are strong enough to explain the
> Strong Nuclear Force, is "about" where a runaway inflation of the Universe
> is no longer a concern.
>
> Personally, I don't think that runaway inflation is a problem to this
> model, because I think that gravity is *caused *by these smaller
> wavelengths. Recent papers in advanced optical theory have calculated that
> ordinary light can exert a negative pressure on certain materials. Perhaps
> the reverse could also be true: that some kinds of light can exert negative
> pressure on ordinary matter. At this level of consideration, one would have
> to think of Energy, momentum, inertia and gravity as forces that are
> "informing" matter where to go and how fast.
>
> Scott
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:37:46 Scott0500
> > From: svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: [Vo]:What is the aggregate mass of virtual particles in our
> universe
> >
> > These are follow-up questions, and the questions posed are very much
> > related to my previous subject thread: "A Third Way."
> >
> > It's my understanding that certain types of subatomic virtual
> > particles possess mass, such as fermions, electrons, positrons, etc...
> > It's also my understanding virtual particles are no different than
> > real particles - only that their existence in our universe is
> > fleeting. Nevertheless, I gather there are circumstances (which
> > includes special experiments that have been conducted) where the
> > fleeting nature of virtual particles can be disentangled in such a
> > manner that causes their fundamental nature to become permanent in our
> > universe.
> >
> > I could be wrong on this point but I get the impression that the
> > universe as it, how shall I put it... -quantum fluctuates- produces a
> > LOT of virtual particles, this despite the fact that individually
> > speaking their life spans are exceedingly short. Nevertheless this
> > suggests that at any moment in time, the aggregate total mass of all
> > of these virtual particles could turn out to be a LOT. This begs
> > several questions...
> >
> > Could the aggregate total mass of all these virtual particles account
> > for some of the dark matter detected in our universe? Better yet, has
> > this premise already been questioned and pursued by scientists and
> > physicists? Due to the fact that individual virtual particles exist
> > ever-so briefly in our universe, they would NEVER EVER get the chance
> > to clump up into physical objects like planets, stars, and such. The
> > mass of virtual particles would just sort of suddenly hang around in
> > certain areas of the universe and remain frustratingly undetectable.
> >
> > This has also let me to wonder whether r if "quantum fluctuations" DO
> > vary in different areas of the universe, thus producing more virtual
> > "mass" than in other areas... there would seem to be more "dark
> > matter" detected in certain areas of the universe than in other areas.
> > If so, what circumstances would produce an increase in quantum
> > fluctuations in these areas of the universe.
> >
> > In conclusion, I'm speculat'in here that... state changes in various
> > types of elements (and/or alloys) as they transition back and forth
> > between crystalline solids and that of a liquid might also possibly
> > account for an increase in certain kinds of quantum fluctuations,
> > which in turn results in an increase in sub-atomic particle
> > generation, as well as additional mass.
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
> >
> > Regards
> > Steven Vincent Johnson
> > www.OrionWorks.com
> > www.zazzle.com/orionworks
> >
>

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