On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Peter Heckert wrote:

Horace,

thank you very much. I dont have the knowledge to calculate this. Only know the very basics.
Found this via google:
<http://itcanbeshown.com/NERS425/Lab5/Shielding%20-%20Final% 20Version.pdf>
There is data about screening.

Yes. They provide an *average* linear attenuation coefficient for Co60 of 0.694 cm−1, which is 0.694/cm. I provided estimates of .707/ cm and 0.65/cm for the two differing types of gammas. My estimates were based on numbers I pulled off a graph of attenuation by mass coefficients, so have some error. Still, I am right on the range provided by the paper you reference. The bottom line is that 2 cm lead provides practically no shielding for Co60 gammas.

Using the attenuation coefficient from your referenced article of 0.694/cm, we have:

   I = I0 * exp(-(0.694/cm)*(2 cm)) = I0 * exp(-1.388)

   I = I0 * 0.25

This means 25 percent of Co60 gamma radiation would get through the Rossi lead shielding.



My idea was, it could be a very small and weak source, such as used in schools for physics lectures.
These are not too dangerous if shielded.

If a 2 cm thick lead shielded source has even a very modest amount of Co-60 then detectors nearby will detect the gammas - at all times.




If the gamma source is very small the intensity should also decrase by square of distance. The source could be very close to - or inside the nickel powder core . Then the lead and the distance together could shield it close to natural baseline level.
Its just an idea. I dont know if this is possible.

This is not possible if the source produced enough radioactivity to have any effect. Cosmic rays are very detectable and energetic enough to have an effect on LENR if a near background level of Co-60 can have an effect. A a background level of radiation the radiation would have to trigger a significant chain reaction to produce measurable heat. Cosmic rays should trigger such a chain reaction too.

It is also notable that Co60 gammas have enough energy to trigger positron-electron pair generation. Coincidence counters were placed up close to the experiment (one on each side) and detected none.



It also was an idea of me, that metal hydrides are very well researched. Metal hydride hydrogen storage systems are in use worldwide and they use specially developed alloys also such that use nickel as a component. These sytems are belived to be the most secure devices, melting or explosion or abnormal heating is not reported. Some of these are used with very high pressure and temperature. So there are already thousands if not millions man-years of experience, R&D and scientific research done for metal hydride systems. systems. But only the LENR researchers find LENR reactions. Why?


Except for rare explosions, LENR researchers for the most part have had difficulty reliably measuring the effects, they are typically so small. Metal hydride storage systems usually require heating systems, involve large temperature variations, and large reaction enthalpies. LENR effects would not even be noticed unless very robust, which is highly unlikely. Secondly, (relatively) very little LENR research has been done on ordinary hydrogen. Most research has been done on deuterium based systems.


If LENR reactions where easily to achieve, then this should have been discovered.

LENR reactions are *not* easy to achieve at this point (unless of course Rossi is on to something that makes it easy.)


The developers try to reduce the thermal hysteresis in the load/ unload cycle to get best efficiency. So they search for zero hysteresis. When there is LENR energy production then we should have negative hysteresis and if this is possible by common chemical or physical methods, the countless researchers and scientists should have discovered this method or catalyzer.

Pretty difficult to say, not knowing what Rossi's method is, or even if it works as advertised.


Now, so the Rossis catalyzer must be something very unusual that nobody would ever try to use for a metal hydride storage system.

Agreed.



So we need something that ionizises or atomizes the hydrogen molecules, and something that is very unusual for hydride systems. So I came to the idea it must be a radioactive gamma source or device. And it must be separated from the nickel, but can be very close and very small and can be inside..

There have been numerous reports of limited success with radiation stimulation of loaded lattices. Mostly these involved betas (electrons from electron microscope guns or accelerators), alphas, or neutrons.



Also I think, we should not only think about the energy, but also about frequencies and resonances. If Cobalt60 decays into Nickel60, then the gamma radiation spectrum should contain frequencies that are in tune with the resonance frequencies of the nickel nucleus or the inner electron shells of the nickel atom.

That is some good thinking.


That was my idea and how I came to it.

Best,

Peter

The problem with the idea is the number of gammas required to trigger enough reactions to produce measurable heat (unless of course a chain reaction is involved.) Suppose 1 watt of heat is produced, and the reaction involved releases on the order of 10 MeV energy (it is probably way less if it is a Ni transmutaion.) Each second a J of energy has to be produced. A J is 6.24x10^18 eV, or 6.24x10^12 MeV. At 10 MeV per reaction, that is 6.24x10^11 reactions, requiring 6.24x10^11 gammas for that second. That is a highly lethal source of gammas! Further, since we are talking about 1.33 MeV gammas, that is 4.69x10^12 gammas per second, or 0.133 J worth of gammas for that second. The radioactive source would produce about a tenth of a watt heat. If Rossi's reactor produced 13 kW, then the Co60 source would produce about a kW all on its own, and that assumes all the Co60 gammas result in an LENR reaction. This would be a highly detectable radiation source.

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Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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