Mark, Thane posted this reponse to my comments: "Dear hveeder, Actually if you want to use a gasoline engine analogy (as coined by one of our engineer investors...) "the vehicle would be accelerating while the gas tank is filling up with fuel and eventually you would have to stop at the side of the road to dump excess gas into the ditch!" As far as unlimited acceleration is concerned there may be an upper coil limit and certainly there is an upper physical limit - we have not seen it yet. Cheers Thane"
Thane also emphasizes in the demo that the acceleration is accompanied by an 8% DROP in input power. Harry PS Dear Vortex members, if you respond to my mail and want the message sent to vortex, please make sure the vortex mail address appears in the 'TO' box. I think this problem is related to the lastest "improvements" Yahoo has made to their mail system. From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> >To: 'Harry Veeder' <hlvee...@yahoo.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:28:08 PM >Subject: RE: [Vo]: Latest from Thane > > >Harry said: >“However, I get the impression that the duration of the acceleration is >effectively unlimited, but Thane limits it for safety reasons.” > >Thane limits the speed (~3000rpm) for safety reasons, but I doubt that the >effect is unlimited. If I understand it correctly, the rotor needs to be >going at least some lower threshold speed (1800rpm???) or else when the load >is applied it will slow down and eventually stop. At that threshold, the >ability of the magnetic domains to respond to the changing conditions, and >those effects on the electrical properties of the coils, results in the >acceleration effect – opposing magnetic fields occurring at or shortly after >the rotor has passed the centerline of the coils, thus pushing the rotor in >the direction it is turning, thus increasing its speed. However, my gut >feeling is that as the rotor continues to speed up, the ‘push’ will diminish >until it is too small to affect the rotor’s speed. The electrical properties >of the coils have everything to do with how the effect manifests… >-mark > >From:Harry Veeder [mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:55 PM >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane > >It is like an electric or gasoline vehicle accelerating without consuming more >electricity or gasoline. The kinetic energy of the vehicle is increasing >without increasing input energy. Now you could say this is merely because the >engine was switched to a more energy efficient mode, but in that case the >duration of the acceleration should be limited. However, I get the impression >that the duration of the acceleration is effectively unlimited, but Thane >limits it for saftey reasons. > >Harry > >>From:"Roarty, Francis X" <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> >>To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:50:57 PM >>Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane >>Hi Mark, >> I would like to believe he has discovered another method of >>tapping the zero point but without separating how much energy is contained >>strictly in the mechanical flywheel from the energy being magnetically >>coupled across from the stator you have to question what role efficiency >>might play [simply becoming more efficient as frequency increases]. If I >>understand the clip correctly the regenerative coils are on the driven device >>not the motor drive… could the spinning fields be radiating power like an >>antenna and the addition of the extra coils reduces Rf output ? >>Fran >> >>From:Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:04 PM >>To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >>Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane >> >>Latest from Thane: >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_wleUlcMK0 >> >> >>The Theory of Conservation of Energy states that: >> >>"Energy cannot be created" >> >>This theory is false as is shown in this video by employing the Work-Energy >>Principle. >> >>The Work-Energy Principle basically states that in order to increase the >>inertia (kinetic energy) of a mass some EXTERNAL WORK MUST be performed. >> >>This video shows that this is no longer the case. >> >>Kind regards and happy International Day of Peace >> >>Thane >> >> > >
