The skin effect can be neglected, because it adds a pure ohm resitance
to the wire and the resistance is unknown anyway.
And inductive resistance means that the power is smaller than
U_rms*I_rms because there is phaseshift.
Both effects reduce the heating power.
So there are two possibilities remaining: Use a large crest factor or a
high frequency that the meter cannot detect.
I think we can exclude this. This would be too easy to detetect.
Fraud would be much easier: The heat exchanger could be manipulated, so
that only part of the water was heated.
Because the thermal difference was so small, it would be almost
impossible to detect.
Another possibility is to make a small modification to each component:
Measure the flow rate a little bit wrong, measure temperatures a little
bit wrong, calculate a little bit wrong, introduce so much errors and
inaccuracies that a single one -if discovered- would prove nothing, but
all together make an energy gain.
Am 12.10.2011 21:15, schrieb Joe Catania:
Heckert, why don't you go stand on a corner with a tin cup. Yes skin
effect is important at high frequencies especiall in the case of
certain pulse shapes. I'm a physicist and I happen to have intimate
knowledge of just hgow important skin effect can be. Inductive
reactance isn't just proportional to inductance its proportional to
frequency as well. No doubt there may be considerable iron nearby the
current. Alternating electric and magnetic fields can induce electric
polarization and eddie currents which can dissiapte heat.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Heckert"
<peter.heck...@arcor.de>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat
Am 12.10.2011 20:00, schrieb Joe Catania:
Nonsense, high frequencies are subject to skin effect.
So you have studied electrical engineering?
I have. Unfortunately I dont know the proper english expressions to
explain this, but it is trivial, anyway.....
For these frequencies that are in question here and with those thick
cables you can almost forget the skin effect.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Heckert"
<peter.heck...@arcor.de>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat
Am 12.10.2011 18:39, schrieb Joe Catania:
http://www.omega.com/heaters/pdf/HEATER_INTRO_BAND_REF.pdf, as you
can see this one uses a coiled wire. If not designed properly this
could have high inductance.
If you suceed to make a remarkably high inductance without an iron
core, then you should patent and market this.
You will get rich and famous.
Also Lewan say he injects high frequency at one point.
A series inductance will shift the current phase and reduce the
power. Power maximum is, when inductance is zero.
This is even more true with high frequencies.
Kind regards,
Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Blanton"
<hohlr...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat
Yep, it's called power factor. You're really on top of things, Joe!
T
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Joe Catania
<zrosumg...@aol.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that the means they are using to measure power
is prone to
error. An energy analyzer would be the best way to do it. If
there's any
reactance in the circuit they power calculations they use would be
inaccurate.
