Yes, indeed, as a rank amateur, I devote myself to examining all the details within reports that claim to be close to independent replication -- notable for 22 years is that not a single lab can replicate their own research to reliably demonstrate an anomaly -- Edison's light bulbs didn't last long, but you could turn them on and off many times, while his phonograph could rasp recognizable sentences in any venue... I read the Talk (Discussion) page on BlackLight Power on Wikipedia, which indicates very little independent confirmation of remarkable claims for about 20 years... while Rossi has been shown to be so far unconvincing in detailed reviews by Horace Heffner, who has been open to many cold fusion claims for two decades... Rich
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > I beg to differ most strenuously with Mr. Murray's statement: > "...largely CF believing community of Vortex-L..." > > Rich, you've been a contributor to this group for quite some time as well. > If you haven't noticed by now you aren't as observant as you think. The > main thing that attracted me to the Vort Collective was that the regular > contributors HAVE READ THE PAPERS they are discussing... especially when it > comes to CF and BLP. Thus, their 'belief' that there is something to > LENR/CF is based on KNOWLEDGE of the research; and some have even > participated in it, myself included (with Tom Droege), not because they read > the latest condescending quip in the latest issue of Science or Nature, both > of which have no interest in READING the papers submitted by very > accomplished scientists. I don't know what your definition of 'belief' is, > but what goes on in this group is not my concept of belief...at least, not > when it comes to serious subject matter such as mentioned in this post. > > As Dr. Robert Duncan, Vice Chancellor of Research, Univ of Missouri, said in > his 60-Minutes segment, "Talk to the scientists, visit their labs, do the > calculations for yourself.... Don't let others do your thinking for you." > If more 'scientists' made this their number one rule, we would all probably > have e-Cats by now. > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Murray [mailto:rmfor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:11 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; Rich Murray; Rich Murray > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power > > As a pragmatic skeptic, within the largely CF believing community of > Vortex-L, my meager qualifications re science and technology have > <snip> > > >
