Look at your own calculations: c). If only liquid water is ejected by the ECATs, the minimum system power output is 187.667 grams/second * (440.27 joules/gram liquid at 105 C –75.544 joules/gram liquid at 18 C) = 68.45 Kilowatts.
d). If vapor is the only output then the maximum system power output is 187.667 grams/second * (2683.4 joules/gram vapor at 105 C –75.544 joules/gram liquid at 18 C) = 489.4 Kilowatts. If Rossi puts in 68.4 kilowatts, and tells people that all of the water is vaporized, he has an apparent COP of 7.15. If we never collect and sparge the steam, we'd never see this. He only guarantees a COP of 6! The "self sustaining" mode is a new invention of Rossi that only came about when everyone questioned the phase-change calorimetry. There is ample reason to pick it over carefully. David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > >I agree with Berke. Rossi is have a good laugh at our expense. If the public >report is falsified, then it is a scam, pure and simple. Otherwise, it is >real as many expect. > >Dave > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Leguillon <robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> >To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 8:53 pm >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Minor progress > > >The issue of complete vaporization has plagued the E-Cat from the beginning. >In >he early E-Cats, water was able to run straight out of the E-Cat and down a >rain, without ever being collected or sparged. In the 1MW demo, the steam is >ondensed and fed back in, there is no way of knowing how much water was >ctually vaporized. >s has been discussed ad nauseum, the stability of the temperature is the best >ndication that the water is pegged to a stable boiling point, and NOT being >ompletely vaporized. >inimal back pressure can explain the elevated boiling point. >Berke Durak <berke.du...@gmail.com> wrote: >>On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Colin Hercus <colinher...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Or 25kg per module if we just bring the water to 105C and make very little >> steam > >But that assumes that the numbers are falsified. In the customer's >public report, it says : > > Water vaporized : 3716 l. > >So if that figure is false, anything goes and there is nothing left to >investigate. You have >to put faith in something, otherwise it is pointless to discuss - just >call it a scam and move on. >-- >Berke Durak > > > >
