The total heat contained within the mixture of water and vapor entered the heat 
exchanger.  The output of the exchanger was plain old fashioned cool water.  
The heat was extracted to the cooling water flow.
The issue of vapor versus liquid did not remain.

Unfortunately, some of us disagree upon the placement of the thermocouple.  Had 
Rossi done what most high schoolers would have, this would not even be an issue.

Earlier testing was subject to a lot of speculation about steam quality.  The 
october 6 test did not depend upon steam quality issues without Rossi's 
placement trick.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Heat Exchanger Manifold Thermocouple Placement.




You can't have it both ways.  Either the steam is dry (complete vaporization), 
in which case the temperature and pressure of the effluent are independent, or 
it's not.  Your assertion that the output temperature depends directly on the 
pressure is a tacit statement that it's not producing dry steam.



Thank you for that crystal clear explanation!   If Rossi wanted to eliminate 
this potential source of serious error, he could have done so by simply running 
a blank determination (a whole system calibration run) in which all of the heat 
was provided by the (properly metered) electrical heater. That would show if 
the heat put in was being properly metered or "over" measured.   Or he could 
have increased coolant flow to keep the water liquid (like Levi supposedly 
did).  Either way, the issue of dryness of steam would be eliminated.    

Could it be that this error source is a key part of Rossi's power generation 
measurement in the tests in which it was used?   Of course it could.  I don't 
think it has been definitively ruled out.

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