On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Berke Durak <[email protected]> wrote:
> Theory 1. > > At some point Rossi decided to attempt a large scam. He somehow > talked Focardi and some others into this. I don't think that's necessary. Focardi was already a strong believer in H-Ni fusion, so he would have been easy to convince. And it's clear he was very uncritical in that he didn't bat an eye when they measured steam quality with a relative humidity probe, or when they claimed an 8-fold discontinuous power increase exactly at the onset of boiling, or when he accepted a power output stable to 1%, instead of suspecting a mixture of phases, or when he accepted that all demos always vaporize all the water at whatever the input flow rate is, always exactly the right power, and not a per cent more. Focardi may have been complicit, but I think he was simply carelessly credulous because of his history with the field. > > And they went on to design advanced deception machines. Then they > started doing demonstration after demonstration to lots of people, > including some very knowledgeable ones. They can't have been very knowledgeable, or they can't have used their knowledge, because all of them accepted the same problems I described above for Rossi. To me, that disqualifies all of them as credible witnesses. Investing huge amounts of > money, they built a giant complicated fake machine with lots of pipes, > wires, control systems, diesel generators, pumps, hydrogen bottles > etc. > > They are now just waiting for the gullible investor checks to clear > before leaving Italy and escaping to some remote tropical paradise to > spend the money on alcohol, cocaine and escorts, and possibly come up > with their next scam, possibly after undergoing plastic surgery to > change their appearances. > You can try to make it sound silly to convince yourself that it's not true, but if you think elaborate and expensive free-energy (or other) scams like this don't happen, you should make more use of google. In a comment from John on Krivit's latest post, he writes: "There are a number of known scams that look a lot like Rossi’s E-Cat that have collected millions from investors without ever producing a product, or even a convincing demonstration of a working device. Examples: Steorn (over a decade and upwards of 20 million Euros) Tilley (over 6 years, millions collected, and supported and endorsed by Rossi’s partner Sterling D. Allan) Priest (millions scammed from companies like Blockbuster Video and Intel; companies were willing to forego prosecution because they didn’t want it publicized that they had been conned)." There are links in his comment if you can't find the information on them. And this leaves out BLP, which also mines the H-Ni exotherms to the tune of $60 M over 20 years without a single product, and many unfulfilled promises. Rossi's history makes it all the more credible. > Cold fusion is being researched by scientists since 1989. Conferences > take place every year and tens if not hundreds of papers have been > published. Lots of scientists replicated the effect. Some of them > reproducibly obtained small amounts of excess energy. > And for all that, not one could perform a simple demonstration of the principle that convinced a panel of experts that there is conclusive evidence for cold fusion. > > They noticed that no conceivable > demonstration would be good enough for pseudoskeptics, so they focus > on commercialization, which is the only way to get the devices > accepted. > > To accept this is to be gullible. The idea that GJ/g energy density, and kilowatts of power output can't be demonstrated unequivocally to anyone, excluding any possibility of energy storage or chemical energy production, is simply too outrageous to be plausible. And yet, you've agreed that they have not done this simple thing.
