Celani knew enough to try to covertly obtain a radiation spectrum during the test run where Rossi left 2 holes through the lead shielding. When Rossi caught him, Celani said something like "That is what Professors do", like that excused his conduct. I suggest it is Rossi that does not trust Celani.

AG


On 12/20/2011 7:15 AM, Axil Axil wrote:

*/- Regarding the Catalyst, Celani thinks that it must be a metal like Platinum or Palladium./*

From this stantment, It can be clearly deduced that Celani does not trust Rossi. Rossi has stated that there is no precious metal in his reactor that is no Platinum or Palladium are used in the Rossi reactor.

The special surface preparation of the nickel catalyst eliminates the need for Platinum or Palladium as a spill over catalyst in both the Rossi and Piantelli reactors.

I take from this lack of understanding that Celani has no clue as to the general working principles of the Ni-H reactor type.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Robert Lynn <robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com <mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Couple of clarifications from an Italian speaker over on Talk
    Polywell:
    - Regarding the Gammas Celani stated that they are the final product
    of the reaction that can be removed (note: this was really not clear.)

    - Regarding the Catalyst, Celani thinks that it must be a metal like
    Platinum or Palladium.

    On 17 December 2011 12:45, Robert Lynn
    <robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
    <mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > I've been informed of another typo/mistranslation. Celani has
    been working
    > with (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Preparata)
    > friend of Eugene
    > Mallove
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq6YY8eFeYI&feature=related
    <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq6YY8eFeYI&feature=related> one of
    > the first mainstream science's physicist that believed in cold
    > fusion and worked with Martin Fleischmann in Milan in the late
    > 90's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35T-gAvaKn4:
    >>
    >>
    >> According to Celani the reaction between Ni and H would be
    catalyzed by
    >> " PHONONS ". The phonons are not particles but the points where
    it contacts
    >> the thermal-electromagnetic waves in phase, produced by thermal
    agitation in
    >> the lattice of nickel. Are points of "summation" of multiple
    heat waves
    >> produced by a variety of nickel atoms that vibrate at the same
    frequency
    >> ... these frequencies would provide hydrogen (as HYDRIDES?) the
    ability to
    >> overcome the Coulomb barrier and make the merger of its proton
    to the core
    >> of nickel (as I understand it). [Editor's note. I'm asking Celani
    >> verification of this and other points of his speech]
    >>
    >> The power density is very high, and some of his reactions
    Celani has
    >> exceeded 1400 watts per gram of nickel, which is higher than
    that of uranium
    >> fission in the "cladding" Zirconium.Although Celani you hear
    talk about
    >> "technological reality", as it has exceeded 200% yield (ie
    COP=2) for two
    >> weeks.
    >>
    >> Celani has worked very hard with the great Japanese scientist
    Arata. The
    >> Japanese government has funded plenty of not only the research
    but also
    >> those of three foreign groups who have had full access to the
    laboratory by
    >> Arata.
    >>
    >> Celani was able to perform various types of experiment and
    measurement,
    >> even the "craziest".
    >>
    >> Among these groups was that of MIT and INFN (Italian national
    institute of
    >> Nuclear Physics; Celani et al).
    >>
    >> Worked with the Arata DEUTERIUM ... but as the import and
    production of
    >> Deuterium prohibited by the peace agreements had to self-refine
    it with
    >> the sulfur-iodine cycle .
    >>
    >> Arata was also excess power of 60 watts, which is easily
    measurable. The
    >> improvement over Fleishman and Pons was when he abandoned the
    traditional
    >> Arata electrode foil. Not only that, the best layers were not
    perfectly
    >> flat, shiny but rather rough, porous, etc..
    >>
    >> In short, had to increase the surface area of contact between
    palladium
    >> and deuterium.
    >>
    >> "When he returned to Italy, Celani modified experiments (*along
    with
    >> Professor Giuliano Preparata*)
    >>
    >> and began to use wires of nickel and hydrogen at high pressure
    >> (eliminating water, oxygen and ' Oxonian )
    >>
    >>
    >> He realized that the power increased by using highly porous
    nickel. He
    >> returned to Japan. There Arata began to experiment with nickel
    of every size
    >> possible. He found that the nickel nanopowder in aggregates of
    less than 20
    >> Ångström you had the best reactions.
    >>
    >> Indeed, the reaction took place (although not as powerful) even
    at room
    >> temperature.
    >>
    >> As for gammas they are an end product of the reaction, not
    desired by
    >> Celani, that you can do without.
    >>
    >> By applying radio frequency (microwave) to dust (I did not know
    whether
    >> that of Rossi or his), he had a massive production of gamma rays,
    >> which Celani does not want and does not consider useful.
    >>
    >> As the catalyst for him are metals such as platinum or
    palladium (must
    >> resist the micro-points where the heat reaches thousands of
    degrees,
    >> ionizing hydrogen)
    >>
    >> Celani comes to scientific reality PROCESS.
    >>
    >> Celani says that the Greeks of today have passed Defaklion
    Rossi, from the
    >> technological point of view. [Editor's note. others believe
    that Defkalion
    >> has put together a nice frame and a beautiful body ... but do
    not have the
    >> "engine"].
    >>
    >> He says that this attitude of secrecy is "stupid" [ed. Celani is
    >> understandably affected by a) not being invited to the
    demonstration of 28
    >> October and 2) the negative response to the proposal of Rossi
    independent
    >> testing under the aegis of INFN], and in the end, continue
    along this road
    >> will not have the triumph of science and industrial deserves
    it. According
    >> to Celani, Rossi arrives to yield around 600%.



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