Welcome Eric, Thx for the feedback… this seems to be your first post. A few questions if I may…
1) How long have you been monitoring this forum before posting? That is not a bad thing; most are a little timid to post until after having monitored the forum for a little while; getting to know the ‘personalities’. 2) did you read about why this forum was founded? 3) have you read the rules or guideline for participating in the forum? Thanks, -Mark From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things Hi everyone! Interesting list, to say the least. I like Mary Yugo's contributions, even if some of you feel that she's trolling or quibbling. I don't agree with some of her conclusions, but more often than not she raises interesting points that are helpful to take into account, making her perspective a valuable one. If you disagree strongly with something and think it's been raised out of ulterior motives, there's no reason even to engage the point. In the few exchanges I've followed, I haven't seen any indication that this is happening. In other words, there's no need for animosity or personal complaints here. Everyone can get along, even if we don't agree with one another's conclusions. Let arguments stand on their own, independent of how they've been raised. All the best, Eric ___________________ eric.wal...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: That was hilarious Alan, and oh so descriptive of what we do here.. or most of us try to do here! Excellent and amusing analogy... -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things No, we count the eggs. If some are hidden then we try to estimate how they are packed in the nest, to estimate the total number. We analyze the photographs to determine their size. We try to determine the species from the size, colour and pattern. From the size we calculate the mass, and determine if the branch holding the nest is strong enough to support their weight. We try to estimate the ambient temperature. Then we research hatching rates and estimate the number that are likely to hatch. If you call that "counting" ... yes, I'm guilty. ----- Original Message ----- > I think MY is doing a good job here. If it were not for her, Cude, and > a few others, this place would see a frenzy of chicken-counting before > the hatching takes place, at least when it comes to Rossi.
