OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jed, as I'm sure you are aware, Jones has been quite vocal with his
> prediction that Rossi's e-cats (at least the e-cats we've seen so far)
> will eventually be discovered to go "quiescent" in approximately 8
> hours after being turned on.


I do not know where Jones got this from. I have not heard it from Rossi or
anyone else working with Ni-H. Rossi said it goes bananas after some period
of time. It goes out of control. Whatever that means. He did not say it
turns off and he cannot restart it. Neither did Forcard or Levi or any of
the others who have observed his reactors for days or weeks.

There is no doubt it can run indefinitely with input power. Levi observed
an 18-hour run. Others have seen much longer ones.

I don't see what the problem is here. As long as you can make this thing
run *with* power, who cares if there is some limitation that makes it stop
after 8-hours in self-sustaining mode? If it explodes after 8  hours that's
a problem! But so what if it turns off? Just run it with power input. It
seems Defkalion is doing that. Input power is only a fraction of output, so
it does not matter. Defkalion's ratio is presently 20, they say. I'm sure
with some more engineering they can make any ratio they want.

I do not understand why Rossi and his customer (?) wanted to run the big
reactor in self-sustaining mode in October. I guess they had their reasons.


Meanwhile, we know that Rossi has claimed (boasted?) that he has had
> his e-cats warming a factory for a solid year... or something to that
> effect. However, as we all know, it would be unwise to take Rossi's
> word considering how creative he can be with his use of words.


Yeah. It's an itty-bitty space heater at the EON Factory. The address is in
the patent.

I had some difficulty believing that. Then Forcardi talked about going to
the factory and seeing the gadget, in one of his interviews. I heard that
and thought, "maybe it's true after all."

Then a Reliable Source sent me a photo of the gadget, with some technical
details, such as the fact that it ran continuously during the winter of
2008-2009, producing between 5 and 8 kW. I asked permission to upload this
document, but so far, no dice. I have no reason to doubt this is real, and
the heater did run continuously for months.

I realize the noisy skeptics would say I have many reasons to doubt it. For
me . . . I imagine myself a well-informed aviation enthusiast in 1905. Some
friends come by and show me photos from their recent visit to Dayton, such
as this one:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/genbob/1905WrightFlight41.jpg

They say, "yeah we saw it fly a good 50 feet in the air for 20 minutes." I
know these people to be experts in aviation. I have no doubt that the
Wrights and others have flown. I have seen other people make uncontrolled
glider flights, such as this guy:

http://www.flyingmachines.org/lilthl.html

I think under those circumstances back in 1905 I would be crazy to doubt
what my friends tell me. There is simply no rational reason to think my
friends are crazy, deluded or fooled, or that they are conspiring to fool
me. I do not see any significant difference between that situation and this
one.

- Jed

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