You saw the engine working with your own eyes and can get a demo kit for $350. I will be looking for reaction reports about the demo kit on the net. But I want to believe, and yet it is just too cool to be true.
Cheers: Axil On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:23 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I watched these as well and have to wonder if this is real. How could a > system with these characteristics not attract more attention from the auto > industry? > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: pagnucco <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 10:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine > > > Axil, > > I watched the videos you referenced. > > If correct, the over-unity claims should be very easy to verify. > > -- Lou Pagnucco > > Axil wrote: > > The Rossi reactor is already obsolete. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L7wZqDQ7Pjg > > > > > > This video shows the Papp engine under a *dynamometer* test with > > narration > > and introduction by Jimmy Sabori. > > > > > > A high efficiency linear generator can be integrated into the design of > > the papp engine to convert the reciprocating motion of the piston into > > maximum electric power. This free-piston engine/generator combination has > > maximum high efficiency and reliability when converting motion to electric > > power because of the absence of the mechanical devices like a dedicated > > generator crankshaft, connecting rod, etc. The linear generator concept > > plays a very important role in this free-piston engine hybrid system to > > realize unparalleled high efficient electric power production approach.. > > > > > > This concept is best for transportation, or electric production at home > > or > > office when coupled with a generator. It can be instantly started or > > stopped based on demand whereas the Rossi reactor takes one hour to start > > of stop. This leaves the Rossi type reactor to best serve the very limited > > high process heat specialty industrial market. > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UNoxQDS3LlU > > > > > > The video above is a demo of the reaction inside the cylinder of the papp > > engine. You will note the formation of ball lightning inside the > > transparent cylinder as the noble gas explodes. IMHO, this marks the > > formation of Rydberg mater with mediates the intense electron shielding > > that reduces the coulomb barrier of the noble gases to the point of > > fusion. > > > > > > > > Cheers: Axil > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM, <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> wrote: > > > >> Axil, > >> > >> I am not acquainted with this engine. > >> > >> You wrote - > >> > >> " After several thousand hours the gases lose structure and their > >> elasticity." > >> > >> Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition" > >> > >> Has anyone look at the ash (both gas and cylinder walls)? > >> > >> Is there dielectric breakdown during ignition with electron cascades? > >> If so, have RF-emissions been characterized? > >> > >> Has anyone tried reproducing the effect outside of an engine where the > >> phenomenon can be observed better? > >> > >> I would be interested in answers to any of these questions > >> - especially since McKubre believes it's probably a real nuclear effect. > >> > >> -- Lou Pagnucco > >> > >> Axil^2 wrote: > >> > *Noble Gas Plasma Engine * > >> > > >> > In the 1980s, Joseph Papp was granted US Patent No. 3,670,494 for his > >> > “Noble Gas Plasma Engine”. > >> > > >> > A mixture of recycled inert gases (helium, neon, argon, krypton, and > >> > xenon) > >> > fills a piston cylinder These gases are exposed to a high-voltage > >> > discharge > >> > in this sealed cylinder capped with a piston. > >> > > >> > This spark causes the gases to expand violently though no combustion > >> > occurs. Mechanical energy is delivered by the piston's displacement. > >> After > >> > the spark, the gases immediately collapses to their original volume > >> and > >> > density, and the cycle is repeated. > >> > > >> > > >> > Replacing these gases cost 15 cents per operating hour . > >> > > >> > Papp's first prototype was a simple 90-horsepower Volvo engine with > >> upper > >> > end modifications. > >> > > >> > Attaching the Volvo pistons to pistons fitting the sealed cylinders, > >> the > >> > engine worked perfectly with an output of three hundred horsepower. > >> The > >> > inventor claimed it would cost about twenty five dollars to charge > >> each > >> > cylinder every sixty thousand miles. > >> > > >> > Papp had arranged for a demonstration of Volvo engine to > >> representatives > >> > of > >> > the Stanford Research Institute. Unfortunately the day before the > >> > demonstration, the Volvo engine exploded. One person was killed, and > >> > another person was injured. Papp himself is believed to have died from > >> > apparent neutron radiation from his engine. > >> > > >> > There were indications that such an engine could provide its own > >> > electrical > >> > power and being a closed system, require no fuel. It is not by > >> definition > >> > an electromagnetic engine, however. It is believed that at the heart > >> of > >> > the > >> > Papp engine is the development of high-density electrical charge > >> clusters > >> > which provide the energy to expand the gases. > >> > > >> > The Papp technology is now in the public domain, Other US patents are > >> > 5319336, 4151431, 3670494, 4046167 - Mechanical Accumulator, 3680431 > >> for > >> > Method and Means for Generating Explosive Forces, and 4,428,193 for > >> Inert > >> > Gas Fuel, Fuel Preparation Apparatus and System for Extracting Useful > >> Work > >> > from the Fuel. > >> > > >> > There are several groups working on versions of the Papp engine. It > >> seems > >> > to keep recycling through the new energy community. > >> > > >> > Jim Kettner has incorporated a company called “inteligentry, LTD” to > >> > simply > >> > and optimized the Papp process. He will license his prototype for mass > >> > production shortly uses the Rossi type “try it before you buy it money > >> > back > >> > guaranty”. > >> > > >> > It looks to me like the Papp engine uses the same basic electron > >> screening > >> > LERN principles as the Rossi reactor. In the Papp engine, helium is > >> the > >> > fuel and Argon is the catalyst. Jim Kettner is very open about his > >> > technology since most of it is in the public domain. > >> > > >> > Kettner's company “inteligentry, LTD,” is selling a demo unit to the > >> > experimenter types for $350 so that they can verify in their own minds > >> > that > >> > gas based LENR works. This LENR engine produced no heat. Its energy > >> output > >> > is strictly mechanical energy. A simple spark and frequency generator > >> are > >> > provide. The gas is user supplied. > >> > > >> > If you are interested, see > >> > > >> > > >> http://www.magistrala.cz/freeenergy/2012/07/28/inteligentry-open-sourcing-noble-gas-engine-core-design/ > >> > > >> > Public domain LENR > >> > Fuel mix > >> > xenon 8.5 > >> > > >> > krypton 12.5 > >> > > >> > argon 16.9 > >> > > >> > neon 26.3 > >> > > >> > Helium comprise the remainder. > >> > This technology shares most of the features that are currently under > >> > development by other LENR vendors and Focus Fusion. I will discuss > >> these > >> > similarities in another post. > >> > Cheers: Axil > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >