You saw the engine working with your own eyes and can get a demo kit for
$350. I will be looking for reaction reports about the demo kit on the net.
But I want to believe, and yet it is just too cool to be true.

Cheers:   Axil

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:23 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> I watched these as well and have to wonder if this is real.  How could a
> system with these characteristics not attract more attention from the auto
> industry?
>
> Dave
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: pagnucco <pagnu...@htdconnect.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 10:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
>
>
> Axil,
>
> I watched the videos you referenced.
>
> If correct, the over-unity claims should be very easy to verify.
>
> -- Lou Pagnucco
>
> Axil wrote:
> > The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
> >
> >
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L7wZqDQ7Pjg
> >
> >
> >  This video shows the Papp engine under a *dynamometer* test with
> > narration
> > and introduction by Jimmy Sabori.
> >
> >
> >  A high efficiency linear generator can be integrated into the design of
> > the papp engine to convert the reciprocating motion of the piston into
> > maximum electric power. This free-piston engine/generator combination has
> > maximum high efficiency and reliability when converting motion to electric
> > power because of the absence of the mechanical devices like a dedicated
> > generator crankshaft, connecting rod, etc. The linear generator concept
> > plays a very important role in this free-piston engine hybrid system to
> > realize unparalleled high efficient electric power production approach..
> >
> >
> >  This concept is best for transportation, or electric production at home
> > or
> > office when coupled with a generator. It can be instantly started or
> > stopped based on demand whereas the Rossi reactor takes one hour to start
> > of stop. This leaves the Rossi type reactor to best serve the very limited
> > high process heat specialty industrial market.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UNoxQDS3LlU
> >
> >
> >  The video above is a demo of the reaction inside the cylinder of the papp
> > engine. You will note the formation of ball lightning inside the
> > transparent cylinder as the noble gas explodes. IMHO, this marks the
> > formation of Rydberg mater with mediates the intense electron shielding
> > that reduces the coulomb barrier of the noble gases to the point of
> > fusion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers:  Axil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM, <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Axil,
> >>
> >> I am not acquainted with this engine.
> >>
> >> You wrote -
> >>
> >> " After several thousand hours the gases lose structure and their
> >> elasticity."
> >>
> >> Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition"
> >>
> >> Has anyone look at the ash (both gas and cylinder walls)?
> >>
> >> Is there dielectric breakdown during ignition with electron cascades?
> >> If so, have RF-emissions been characterized?
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried reproducing the effect outside of an engine where the
> >> phenomenon can be observed better?
> >>
> >> I would be interested in answers to any of these questions
> >> - especially since McKubre believes it's probably a real nuclear effect.
> >>
> >> -- Lou Pagnucco
> >>
> >> Axil^2 wrote:
> >> > *Noble Gas Plasma Engine *
> >> >
> >> > In the 1980s, Joseph Papp was granted US Patent No. 3,670,494 for his
> >> > “Noble Gas Plasma Engine”.
> >> >
> >> > A mixture of recycled inert gases (helium, neon, argon, krypton, and
> >> > xenon)
> >> > fills a piston cylinder These gases are exposed to a high-voltage
> >> > discharge
> >> > in this sealed cylinder capped with a piston.
> >> >
> >> > This spark causes the gases to expand violently though no combustion
> >> > occurs. Mechanical energy is delivered by the piston's displacement.
> >> After
> >> > the spark, the gases immediately collapses to their original volume
> >> and
> >> > density, and the cycle is repeated.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Replacing these gases cost 15 cents per operating hour .
> >> >
> >> > Papp's first prototype was a simple 90-horsepower Volvo engine with
> >> upper
> >> > end modifications.
> >> >
> >> > Attaching the Volvo pistons to pistons fitting the sealed cylinders,
> >> the
> >> > engine worked perfectly with an output of three hundred horsepower.
> >> The
> >> > inventor claimed it would cost about twenty five dollars to charge
> >> each
> >> > cylinder every sixty thousand miles.
> >> >
> >> > Papp had arranged for a demonstration of Volvo engine to
> >> representatives
> >> > of
> >> > the Stanford Research Institute. Unfortunately the day before the
> >> > demonstration, the Volvo engine exploded. One person was killed, and
> >> > another person was injured. Papp himself is believed to have died from
> >> > apparent neutron radiation from his engine.
> >> >
> >> > There were indications that such an engine could provide its own
> >> > electrical
> >> > power and being a closed system, require no fuel. It is not by
> >> definition
> >> > an electromagnetic engine, however. It is believed that at the heart
> >> of
> >> > the
> >> > Papp engine is the development of high-density electrical charge
> >> clusters
> >> > which provide the energy to expand the gases.
> >> >
> >> > The Papp technology is now in the public domain, Other US patents are
> >> > 5319336, 4151431, 3670494, 4046167 - Mechanical Accumulator, 3680431
> >> for
> >> > Method and Means for Generating Explosive Forces, and 4,428,193 for
> >> Inert
> >> > Gas Fuel, Fuel Preparation Apparatus and System for Extracting Useful
> >> Work
> >> > from the Fuel.
> >> >
> >> > There are several groups working on versions of the Papp engine. It
> >> seems
> >> > to keep recycling through the new energy community.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Kettner has incorporated a company called “inteligentry, LTD” to
> >> > simply
> >> > and optimized the Papp process. He will license his prototype for mass
> >> > production shortly uses the Rossi type “try it before you buy it money
> >> > back
> >> > guaranty”.
> >> >
> >> > It looks to me like the Papp engine uses the same basic electron
> >> screening
> >> > LERN principles as the Rossi reactor. In the Papp engine, helium is
> >> the
> >> > fuel and Argon is the catalyst. Jim Kettner is very open about his
> >> > technology since most of it is in the public domain.
> >> >
> >> > Kettner's company “inteligentry, LTD,” is selling a demo unit to the
> >> > experimenter types for $350 so that they can verify in their own minds
> >> > that
> >> > gas based LENR works. This LENR engine produced no heat. Its energy
> >> output
> >> > is strictly mechanical energy. A simple spark and frequency generator
> >> are
> >> > provide. The gas is user supplied.
> >> >
> >> > If you are interested, see
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://www.magistrala.cz/freeenergy/2012/07/28/inteligentry-open-sourcing-noble-gas-engine-core-design/
> >> >
> >> > Public domain LENR
> >> > Fuel mix
> >> > xenon 8.5
> >> >
> >> > krypton 12.5
> >> >
> >> > argon 16.9
> >> >
> >> > neon 26.3
> >> >
> >> > Helium comprise the remainder.
> >> >  This technology shares most of the features that are currently under
> >> > development by other LENR vendors and Focus Fusion. I will discuss
> >> these
> >> > similarities in another post.
> >> > Cheers:     Axil
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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