On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

We are not capable of anything like the fully automated version in which
> all of the necessity of life are handed out for free. That will take 100
> years. Maybe 200 years.
>

As an interesting side note to the economic discussion, there is the
cautionary tail of the Speenhamland system in England in the late 1700s.  I
suspect the difficulties have been exaggerated or even misdiagnosed, but
one can still be warned about attempting anything more
than piecemeal social engineering.  (Not that anyone has suggested that
here.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speenhamland_system

Eric

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