I don't disagree with the power of lobbies.

In fact the expert I talk to said thay they will try to oppose to the
transition to maintain te problem they are the solution of.
They will learn the new technology, while blocking it, until they can
compete and establish a monopoly again.

the way to get around is (non-crony) capitalism, or citizen organisation,
users union/syndicate.

The idea can be to find middle sized industrial who are desperate to find
an innovation (the one that don't own an economic rent, and yet can move).
then you find users/consumers that also desperately need a revolution, and
are are enough autonomous in a niche market, a niche territory to accept
this new technology...

make one find the other, through a citizen organization, a business
syndicate...
and you will make the industry grow from the bottom.

It will look small at the beginning from the point of view of the big
incumbent...
soon they will feel endangered, but it will be too late to oppose.

Only those "business syndicates" can save the grid from shutting down at
the end.
Without those syndicate who can launch local smart grid, it will finish
with home only generator like in Jed Book.


2012/11/8 Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>

> Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> However as soon as we have a machine on the client table, and that the
>> advantages for the client are clear,  nothing can block people to use it...
>> no lobbies, no regulation, no fear...
>>
>
>  I think that's incorrect. Here in the U.S. we have powerful lobbies and
> corporations that can delay or possibly prevent useful technology for a
> long time. I will give some examples below, but first let me say this
> discussion has gone off the tracks. You, Mark Gibbs and others
> misunderstand what I had in mind.
>
>

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