>From Vorl:
Since I started this post, I'll assume your rely was meant for me. > I haven't seen any trolling here. What I have seen are opinions > of one gentleman being depreciated, often with insult, whereupon > he answers vigorously. You are certainly free to express your own observations on the matter. Here's my observation of your observation: I don't think you have been very observant. Feel free to disagree. > If the people who do not like his opinions would ignore him, or > reply politely, I don't think there would be a problem. Many are doing just that. Myself included. I have been filtering his posts for quite some time now. > I recently started to block everything from or about him so I do > not see anything. A sensible approach. As previously mentioned, I also block his posts. But I also choose not to block the posts of others who may be replying to this troll's posts. That is too much of a draconian approach for me to initiate. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, etc... > You might try that rather than trying to get him booted off the > list, which is what 'administratively' would mean. I have asked Mr. Beaty to look into the matter administratively since it is his list to do what he wants with. In the end it is Mr. Beaty's decision, not mine. > Is there some reason you can not use killfiles to ignore him; I do. > I mean some psychological reason that requires you to see > everything going on here, no matter how unpleasant it is to you? I would reply by saying you are being patronizing. You have no idea what I read and don't read on this list. Let me point out that recently there now seems to be brand new poster, an anonymous individual who goes by the name of "Orgasm Wikipedia". This anonymous poster seems to be gearing up to perform copy-cat trolling behavior. He recently attempted to equate Mr. Lomax with Ahmadinejad. "Lomax reminds me of Ahmadinejad." This is what concerns me: copy-cat trolling behavior. I am concerned about votex-l possibly catching another trolling virus. Catching a "virus" is an apt description Mr. Beaty has used in the past when trolling behavior suddenly takes an up-tick and begins to potentially affect the health of his list. The list can catch a fever. > I ask because I do not feel any such necessity and do not > understand why anybody would get bent out of shape about > something like what you are talking about. It's quite simple. I'm concerned about the over-all health of the vortex-l list. > There are limits of course; I, for example, would demand that > Bill Beaty boot anyone who claimed that Rossi has shown no > evidence of OU heat generation. Let me get this straight. You could care less about a poster ranting all over the place about his religious predilections, but OTOH, if someone opines that Rossi has shown now OU heat generation he should be booted off this list? Are you serious? That could possibly turn out to be half the Vortex-l membership! Hell! I don't know if Rossi is for real. I'd like to think he is the genuine article, but I really don't know. I have no proof! ;-) > But aside from such outrages, unpleasantness can best be dealt > with by using a killfile. Usually a killfile is enough. Unfortunately, sometimes it isn't. In the end, however, it's Mr. Beaty's decision. Incidentally, I don't want off topic discussions banned, particularly when the subjects being discussed are not meant to antagonize others. Unfortunately, increased trolling activity can result in a temporary ban of off topic discussions, as implemented by Mr. Beaty as a way to reduce the vortrex-l "fever". That's a major reason why I'm concerned about recent trolling activity. I don't want off topic discussions temporarily banned as a way to reduce the fever. Mr. Beaty has had to do this in the past. Unfortunately, and IMO, that may very well be one of the goals this troller is attempting. If he can get Mr. Beaty to ban him but also ban off topic discussions he thinks are inappropriate for Vortex-l, he thinks he wins. Meanwhile, the rest of us are inconvenienced. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
