These are plasmas, the electrons are taken away from the atoms and they are
mixed with bare nuclei. You can compress a plasma to degenerate levels when
quantum mechanics exclusion principle takes over. These densities are even
more enormous.
Giovanni


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Last time I checked most solids and liquids were
> mostly  "non-compressible", at least in our macro world.  Liquid Water
> density changes only 4% over a wide range
>
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2013, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
>
>> In fact, it is mostly hydrogen and helium.
>> This to show that you can have iron at the core of earth with higher
>> density that what iron has at atmospheric pressure. The density is
>> determined by the pressure and temperature not just the type of material.
>> When we quote densities of materials most often we mean at atmospheric
>> pressure.
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> Works for me, I never said it was iron
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 21, 2013, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
>>
>> The sun core has a density 20 times higher than iron at atmospheric
>> pressure.
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> I have not calculated it yet, but I think it is a black hole with enough
>> entropic gravitational pull to trigger fusion around it.
>>
>> Could you run that calc for me?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 21, 2013, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
>>
>> Chem, what is the density of the core of the sun?
>> Plasma can be squeezed to ultra high density under high pressure.
>> Giovanni
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking a plasma was less dense.  Maybe you meant a Bose Einstein
>> condensate or something similar?
>>
>> *Plasma* is similar to a gas, in which a certain proportion of its
>> particles are ionized. Gases contain molecules bonded with molecular
>> bonds.In stars or in case of high temperatures, the molecular bonds of
>> gases are dissociated & then due to high temperature it suffers further
>> heating <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_plasma_more_dense_than_gas#> &
>> finally forms so called plasma. They have density about [1 part./meter cube
>> -1032 part./meter 
>> cube<http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_plasma_more_dense_than_gas#>
>> ].
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>> gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is denser because the iron is in a plasma form under a lot of
>> pressure, so it can be compacted.
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> From You
>>
>> "Gravity was dominant force. People do simulations of this stuff and they
>> work"
>>
>>

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