I would be surprised if such a group of isomers were available but not discovered until the present. It is possible, but some of the nickel isotopes are known to exhibit them and it would be strange for the researchers to have overlooked ones associated with other isotopes. Obviously, the energy would have to already be stored there before Piantelli could release it. Any action that merely stores energy in one of these to be reclaimed later would result in an overall energy gain of zero. How confident are you that this is the reaction that he considers valid for his patent?
There is an outside probability that isomers of this nature do exist and have remained undetected. If the mechanism required to achieve the energy release is extremely unlikely to occur and is not produced by the typical known drive mechanisms, then perhaps so. The way you described the release process would most definitely fall into the category of unlikely! It would be exciting to find out that he is correct. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 10:14 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:understanding Piantelli et al.'s 2013 EP2368252B1 patent On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:09 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: I understand energy release of this nature as being due to an isomer transition within the nucleus. Is that what is being proposed? That is the term I was looking for -- isomeric transitions. There are metastable isomers of, for example, isotopes of nickel. But if I have understood what Piantelli is saying, in order for the reaction to be gainful, these metastable isomers are too short-lived to be what he needs. I believe he needs the normal isomers to be very long-lived metastable ones, and then the action of hydrogen brings them down to a heretofore unknown ground state. This would need to apply to most or all transition metals, and not just nickel, since the patent covers the transition metals generally and not just nickel. Eric
