On Sunday, April 28, Robin said [snip] These questions go to the heart of mass/energy equivalence.[/snip] ... and if you add equivalent acceleration like hydrogen ejected from the corona or suppression in a skeletal catalyst it goes to the heart of LENR. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:17:13 -0700: Hi, [snip] There are two assumptions that most papers purporting to show the impossibility of f/H states share. 1) They assume that spin is an intrinsic property of the electron. 2) I get the impression they also assume that the mass of the both electron and proton remain constant during transitions to f/H states. In particular, I suspect #2 as the primary reason for obtaining imaginary (as in complex numbers) values. Where #2 is concerned, consider the following questions:- 1) Does a Hydrogen atom in the ground state weigh (13.6 eV / c^2) less than the combined mass of a free proton and a free electron? (IOW, when a Hydrogen atom in an excited state emits a photon while transitioning to a less energetic state, does the atom's weight change by the mass equivalent of the energy emitted?) 2) If the answer to the first question is yes, then do the particles individually weigh less, or does their field energy have mass? 3) If the latter, then how can we say that the mass of a Hydrogen atom is the sum of the mass of a free proton and a free electron? These questions go to the heart of mass/energy equivalence. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
