I posted this video not long ago. The cracks are self assembling. watch
the video on how the nano-gaps form.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]
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>  Axil,****
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>                 Nice theory! Can you build on it or tie it back into your
> plasmonics posit? I always liked  wet cells from a neo  Julian Schwinger
> concept of  sonoluminescence where the meniscus became the suppression
> plates of a collapsing Casimir geometry such that trapped gasses were
> exposed to a dynamic value of suppression, producing self destructive
> energies we see as the dark blue light given off during collapse. You seem
> to be suggesting that the plasma and solid geometries  can be forming
> similar structures, A metal rain would form dynamic cavities just like
> bubbles in sono fusion without  the self quenching heat sinking effect of a
> totally liquid medium. I can see gas plasma caught in these cracks  during
> such a “rain storm” being effected equivalent to backfilling a cavity but,
> what makes the cavity reform? Is it natural for a catalyst to just keep
> creating pockets? You definitely seem to be on to something and would love
> to see you put the pieces together.****
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> Fran****
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> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2013 5:33 PM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:RE: From Russia, with love****
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> The solution is to grow cracks in real time continuously. These renewable
> cracks are defined by sub nanometer contact points in unlimited numbers in
> the metal lattice. These drops are self-renewing and totally recyclable in
> the same way that rain renews water in a puddle.****
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> I believe this is what the secret chemical additive does in the Ni/H
> reactors. ****
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> A heat source in the reactor produces a metal rain of nano-drops that
> falls on the surface of micro particles. ****
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> Whereas a crack in solid metal pits and becomes useless in time, these
> metal drops evaporate and reform in another location on the surface of the
> lattice. They redeposit somewhere else refreshed and renewed. The physical
> processes that happen in a crack in palladium and the alkali metal
> nano-drops are the same but the nano-drops are formed more readily and
> reliably and are self-renewing.****
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> This need for alkali metal drop formation is usually meet by the inclusion
> of a potassium salt in a LERN experiment.****
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> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
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> I agree. In fact, I believe once gaps of a critical width can be made on
> purpose in any material, CF will become totally reproducible.
>  Nevertheless,  these gaps have to be made using the known laws even though
> once created, a new phenomenon is initiated. This requirement also applies
> to the new materials you describe. They will be created using the known
> laws even though once created, they will have unusual properties. This same
> requirement applies to all aspects of materials science and has resulted in
> the unusual materials we presently enjoy. They were not made by imagining
> the need for "magic powers". The known and conventional laws of chemistry
> were used to create the materials in most cases.  The only question of
> importance is: What has to be created to initiate CF?  Unless you can
> answer this question, you do not know what you need to make.  So, please
> focus on this question.****
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> On May 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Axil Axil wrote:****
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> Ed Storms stated:****
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> “ We need to consider ideas that are consistent with all that is known
> about materials and about how CF behaves?  Unless you can show some
> consistency with what is known and observed, the ideas are a waste of time.
> So, put your thinking cap back on.”****
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> In the last few years, material scientist has developed materials that are
> game changing in how matter behaves.****
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> These new materials are called topological materials. In these materials,
> physical processes can be engineered to behave in a manner that conflicts
> with common sense.****
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> The rules of process behavior in material are now relative to the material
> itself and not absolute.****
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> You cannot assume an absolute rule for material behavior in this modern
> age.  ****
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> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
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> Harry, random suggestions guided by no relationship to knowledge is not
> very useful. My guiding principle is that all aspects of CF are consistent
> with normal, well known, and accepted laws and rules of both physics and
> chemistry. Only one small part is missing, which needs to be identified.
>  Nevertheless, the role of this missing part can be clearly determined.
>  This missing part does not in any way relate to alpha emission. The
> interaction of an alpha with matter is well known and understood. It does
> not initiate a fusion reaction. If it could, all alpha emitters would
> occasionally produce CF in the presence of hydrogen, which has not been
> observed. Of course, someone will find a way to counter this conclusion,
> but to what end?  We must use some triage here. We need to consider ideas
> that are consistent with all that is known about materials and about how CF
> behaves?  Unless you can show some consistency with what is known and
> observed, the ideas are a waste of time. So, put your thinking cap back on.
> ****
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> On May 6, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:****
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> The alpha particles could be a precursor of the "new fire".
> Once the fire the starts less smoke is produced.****
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> starting a fire with hand drill****
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF9GiK_T4PA****
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> Or maybe alphas are like sparks for the starting the "new fire"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_35kxuwjcTs
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> Harry****
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> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
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> Of course, no statement can be made about any subject that does not invite
> a counter argument. No idea about CF can be suggested that cannot be shown
> to be false. Clearly, unless some triage is used to sort through the
> arguments and some common sense is applied, the effect will be impossible
> to understand.  Naturally, I have considered the possibilities you suggest,
> Axil, before I came to my conclusions. Of course what you propose might be
> true.  Nevertheless, I reached my conclusion by considering all of the
> observed behavior.  A reader will have to decide for themselves which
> possibility they want to accept because it is impossible to debate such
> details here and reach an agreed conclusion. No matter what arguments are
> given, a counter argument can always be provided. ****
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> I stated what I believe and gave the reasons. You stated what you believe
> and gave your reasons. That is all we can do. ****
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> Ed Storms   ****
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> On May 6, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Axil Axil wrote:****
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> Ed Storms states:****
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> *“We know that when large amounts of heat are detected, alpha emission at
> a comparable rate does not occur. Clearly, large heat production and alpha
> emission are not related.”*****
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> This could be a false assumption as follows:****
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> When a thermalization mechanism that transfers nuclear energy directly to
> the lattice is in place, alpha particles do not carry enough energy to
> penetrate the surface of the CR-39. ****
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> In this situation, the alpha particle drifts out of the nucleus at very
> low energies rather than being fired off out at high speed.****
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> This thermalization mechanism of nuclear energy from LENR directly to the
> lattice makes deductions about the behavior of alpha particles and their
> associated behavior and measurement problematic and unreliable.****
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> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
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> Eric, ALL nuclear reactions generate heat. Alpha emission is a nuclear
> reaction. Therefore, heat was generated. However, the rate of the reaction
> was too small to make detectable heat from this reaction. The only unknown
> is whether heat from a different reaction can occur. ****
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> We know that when large amounts of heat are detected, alpha emission at a
> comparable rate does not occur. Clearly, large heat production and alpha
> emission are not related. Therefore, some other nuclear reaction is the
> source of the heat. The question is: What is this source?   ****
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> When a large amount of heat are produced, helium is detected. This helium
> does not come from alpha emission, as the above logic demonstrates.
>  Therefore, it must result from a different nuclear reaction. The question
> is: What is this reaction? That is the question my and other theories are
> trying to answer.  If you want to answer the question of where the alpha
> comes from, you need to start a different discussion because this emission
> is clearly not related to CF. ****
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> And NO, helium can not be produced by a reaction that sometimes makes
> alpha and sometimes releases He without kinetic energy. Such a reaction is
> too improbable to be seriously considered. ****
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> On May 6, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:****
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> Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:****
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>  But if there was no clear excess heat, we have little reason to conclude
> we have learned anything from the CR-39 experiments about the alpha
> particle flux when there is excess heat.****
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> I do not think they did calorimetry in most of these experiments. We do
> not know whether there was heat.****
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