On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote:

> Vortex-L is an educational organization.
>

Not relevant. If Harvard wouldn't do what you did because they'd be opening
themselves up to a copyright infringement lawsuit.


> It does not compete with Forbes for advertising dollars.
>

True, but that's not the point


> The attribution and link goes back to Forbes.com so they can make their
> money.  Only the text was reposted, not the pictures.
>

Doesn't matter ... you published the full text.

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
>
>
> Copyright Act of 
> 1976<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Copyright_Act_of_1976>,
> 17 U.S.C.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_17_of_the_United_States_Code> §
> 107 <http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html>.
>  fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in
> copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for
> purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including
> multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an
> infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in
> any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall
> include—
> (1)the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of
> a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
>
> Sure, but your interpretation is wrong because republishing the complete
text of a work is not fair use.

>
> Kevin,
> Glad you think it's funny. I hope you find it just as amusing should your
> work ever be misappropriated without the thief even asking.
>  [mg]
> ***My work has been 'misappropriated', many times.  How do you think I
> came to be familiar with this section of the copyright code?
>
>
Your familiarity with the copyright code should have therefore told you
that you were violating copyright.

>
> Copying the entire piece to hundreds of people just wastes bits.
> ***That's hogwash.  Your real objection is because people will read it
> here or elsewhere rather than at Forbes, where the advertising dollars
> settle.  If it was about wasted bits, you wouldn't even bother to bring it
> to anyone's attention.
>

I was making a joke ... and of course I want the hits. I don't write for my
own pleasure. And you have violated my and Forbes' copyright and stolen our
hits. I didn't raise this with my editor at Forbes because I didn't want
the list and William Beatty to have to deal with the fallout. I also
thought you might have been sensible and handled it but evidently you
aren't willing to and I've heard nothing from William. Now it's all a moot
point because enough time has passed that it's not going to have much
impact on the posting's hits. Even so, no matter what BS arguments and
self-justifications you make, you violated copyright.


> And as an FYI, I did you a favor.  You need to understand how modern
> advertising links work on today's internet.  95% of the traffic goes
> through Google, and 90% of users will only go to the first 5 or 6 hits from
> Google.  Google is Forbes's direct competitor for advertising dollars, so
> they include Forbes hits down below their own clients.  By pushing your
> article on nonprofit educational sites, the search terms that lead to your
> article are now much higher on the hit list.
>

Wrong. I don't have time to educate you but you are simply wrong.

>
>
[mg]

>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> I am with Mark. Kevin needs to grow some ethics.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Mark Gibbs <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Fwd: CMNS: Rossi's 3rd party test released:
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Glad you think it's funny. I hope you find it just as amusing should your
>> work ever be misappropriated without the thief even asking.
>>
>> [mg]
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  Mark:
>>> Welcome to da internets.  I hope you don't 'loose' your reputation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Mark Gibbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> Publishing a summary or abstract of my piece would have been fine
>>>> (under the concept of "Fair Use") but posting my article in full to a list
>>>> (and a public list at that) is a breach of both my copyright and Forbes'.
>>>> I'd be less annoyed if you'd waited a week or two but for heaven's sake,
>>>> this is the Internet ... you can cite a link as Alan Fletcher did so people
>>>> can get directly to the original article (which, BTW, has been updated).
>>>> Copying the entire piece to hundreds of people just wastes bits.
>>>>
>>>> William, please delete Kevin's post from the archive.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Mark Gibbs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  posting it here on Vortex for purposes of using it elsewhere...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Gibbs has an article up :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/20/finally-independent-testing-of-rossis-e-cat-cold-fusion-device-maybe-the-world-will-change-after-all/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Shout-out and plot to ... guess who? )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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