Eric,

The idea here is that the extras (DC and/or RF) are undetectable to the meter 
using clamp ammeters (we know this for a fact), and when this extra gets passed 
on to the control box, it's able to pass them on to the device, perhaps with 
some customisation. The device, being chiefly ohmic, will dissipate DC and will 
likely also dissipate RF. So no customisation by the control box of the extras 
is in principle necessary - the power simply gets passed along to the device, 
which consumes it and generates heat as a result.

Now, as I've described, the shenanigans chiefly occur during the pulse OFF 
state, so there will have to be some customisation in the control box. The idea 
here is to dissipate the extras during pulse ON and pass them along during 
pulse OFF. The mains doesn't know about the pulse schedule, so cannot itself 
switch the extras in or out (actually, a Byzantine arrangement could be made to 
work in this way, but I'm not going that far out).

Since no type of electronics control circuitry could survive colocated with the 
device, the implication is that the control box has to dissipate significant 
power continuously. That raises a question about the control box temperature. 
Since it's a sealed unit, and we're talking a couple hundred watts at least, it 
would have to get bloody hot. There's another data point we don't have. But 
you'd think they would have mentioned it.

I'm talking myself out of this, aren't I? :)

Andrew


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric Walker 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test


  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Andrew <andrew...@att.net> wrote:


    B) seems unlikely because it would require batteries, and Hartman states 
that it was much lighter than that. Battery technology does not exist that 
could be that light, and/or occupy so little volume, and make up that total 
energy difference as measured over 100+ hours. Therefore, it seems that the 
only workable theory of possible deception is A).



  I recall Hartman clarifying that measurements were taken on the mains side 
(from Jed's post).  I am not too familiar with circuitry.  I assume that either 
(1) the measurement equipment (including the laptop) will need some kind of 
single-phase conversion in order to work off of the same mains, or (2) they 
will have to be routed to a separate source (in the case where the mains side 
has been tampered with).  Assuming (1) for the moment, how easy or hard would 
it be to filter out hidden DC or AC when constructing the single phase 
conversion in order to protect the measurement equipment?  Would you need a 
heavy transformer?


  Eric

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