I experience momentum exchange as a push, but also don't think the cause of everything must be explained in terms that are consistent with momentum exchange. However, I am well aware that this has been a dogma of physics for hundreds of years.
Harry On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Andrew <andrew...@att.net> wrote: > ** > Quantum mechanics governs both attraction and repulsion between charges. > Ax far as the maths is concerned, it's just a sign change. If you come at > this as an interaction characterised by "exchange of quanta", then (via a > momentum model) only repulsion makes intuitive sense. But that's OK - QM is > nothing if not unintuitive. > > Andrew > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:17 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Isotope separation technology can be improved > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> >> On May 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >> >> >> >> The process you have described has the characteristics of >> a ratchet. Curiously, Jones used the ratchet metaphor in another post where >> he characterised the effect of modulating the input on the cell. >> >> >> Yes Harry, this can be called a ratchet. All kinds of ratchets exist in >> Nature. The challenge is to find the cause. In this case, the nuclei have >> to communicate before they have fused into a single nuclei. The form of >> htat communication is unknown, but very important. Once discovered, this >> will get someone the Nobel prize. >> >> Imagine the following sequence. The nuclei are held apart by an electron >> bond, which is normally the case. Once formed, this structure starts to >> resonate so that the two nuclei get periodically closer together. As they >> approach each other, information is exchanged between the nuclei that tells >> them they have too much mass -energy for being this close. After all, if >> they were in contact, the excess mass-energy would be 24 MeV if the nuclei >> were deuterons. But they are not in contact yet, so that the excess >> mass-energy is less than the maximum. Nevertheless, this excess must be >> dissipated, which each nuclei does by emitting a photon having 1/2 of the >> excess energy for the distance achieved. After the photons are emitted, the >> resonance moves the two nuclei apart, but this time not as far as >> previously the case. The next resonance cycle again brings the nuclei >> close, but this time they come closer than before, again with emission of >> two photons. This cycle repeats until all energy has been dissipated and >> the two nuclei are in contact. The intervening electron, that was necessary >> to the process, is sucked into the final nucleus. Because very little >> energy is released by entry of the electron, the neutrino, if it is emitted >> at all, has very little energy available to carry away. >> >> This process, I suggest, is the unique and previously unknown phenomenon >> that CF has revealed. >> >> > > > Ed, > Typically we associate quantization with attractive forces as is the case > with an electron and a proton in a hydrogen atom, but your system involves > quantization with repulsive forces. > > If pushing an electron and proton apart can happen in steps through the > absorption of photons, I guess it follows that pushing together of > protons can happen in steps through the emission of photons. However, in > the former situation "the pushing apart" is the effect but the absorption > of the photons is the cause, whereas in the latter situation the pushing > together is the cause, and the emission of photons is effect....or is it? > ;-) > > If it is the cause, then the emission of photons serves to pull the > protons together. > > Harry > PS. Wikipedia says the fractional quantum hall effect also involves > quantized states of repulsion although they are between electrons rather > than protons and deuterons. > > > > > >
