Berke Durak <berke.du...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But using an electricity trick to deceive a group of experts sent > by a power industry association is stupid. > Well said! The whole notion is hilarious. Even if it were shown that these people are not experts, you can be sure someone at Elforsk read that report carefully before issuing the statement here: http://www.elforsk.se/Aktuellt/Svenska-forskare-har-testat-Rossis-energikatalysator--E-cat/ Organizations such as this one do not casually post such statements on their web site. This statement says, in effect, that we are looking at revolutionary technology. It is similar to EPRI's understated but unequivocal conclusion: "EPRI PERSPECTIVE This work confirms the claims of Fleischmann, Pons, and Hawkins of the production of excess heat in deuterium-loaded palladium cathodes at levels too large for chemical transformation." Yamali Yamali <yamaliyam...@yahoo.de> wrote: "a group of experts sent by a power industry" > > Are you suggesting the power industry association had a hand in picking > these experts and the group they eventually came up with included Giuseppe > Levi and Hanno Essen based on their expertise? > No, I expect Levi went to the Swedes, and they -- in turn -- went to the Elforsk. Essen is a V.I.P. academic who would have no difficulty getting this level of funding. Whether these people are experts or not I'm sure the Association reviewed their work carefully before issuing a statement. I do not think it takes long for an electrical engineer to conclude that there is no possibility of fraud in these tests. Even the people here such as Cude cannot come up with anything. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they say that "three-phase electricity is difficult to measure" or "there might be a hidden wire under the insulation," forgetting that the researchers have to strip off the insulation to measure voltage. Since those of the best arguments they can come up with, they are finished. Cude came dangerously close to admitting the COP might be over 1. Admitting that would the end for him. He can never say that any test of cold fusion anywhere ever produced evidence of heat over unity. - Jed