You will get it right one day.  I am just kidding as you probably detected Eric.

Actually, it might not be too easy for Rossi to operate his device with just a 
generator attached to some type of steam turbine.  With the present COP of 6 
the device might experience difficulty delivering the peak power required for 
the drive resistor heating.  If we assume that the steam turbine-generator has 
an efficiency of 33%, there would be about two times the power required to 
drive the ECAT available in electrical form at its output.  Unfortunately the 
heating must be delivered in pulses that are at a duty cycle of 33 % in this 
particular experiment.

A quick calculation suggests that the peak heating needed for the control 
resistors is approximately equal to 1.5 times all of the electrical power being 
generated for that period of time.  This will lead to a power deficit during 
the heating period.  External power is available during the other 2/3 of the 
period and in fact that likely would have to be drawn to keep the generator 
operating at a smooth pace.  To accomplish this feat, I believe that Rossi will 
need a form of energy storage such as a battery or the local power mains to 
source and draw power from.

Once the ECAT system is running with the proper load handling, it will exhibit 
an overall system COP of infinity as Jed likes to point out.

This post was put together with a modest amount of consideration and I would 
appreciate it if others would correct any obvious errors that I have committed.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Fri, May 31, 2013 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:




My point was a valid one.  It's that for a regular ICE you need a secondary 
source of power to drive the spark plugs (where in a diesel engine you do not 
after the engine gets going).



Just to clarify the point (for others), in an ICE, there is mechanical energy 
that can easily be converted into electricity to recharge the battery.  In 
Rossi's device, assuming it is driven by joule heating (as I have no reason to 
doubt), you would have to capture the heat coming from the device and figure a 
way to route it back to the secondary source of power (analogous to the battery 
in the ICE).  As we all know, this is not so easy to do, so while the ICE is a 
good analogy, in that it demonstrates why a secondary source of power might be 
necessary, the analogy only goes so far, in that it is harder in Rossi's case 
to recapture the heat and channel it back into the secondary source.


I think this is all pretty obvious to anyone who has given some thought to the 
matter and who is seeking after truth.  I just wanted to tie off one or two 
loose ends.


Eric 




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