I guess you haven't bothered actually reading my earlier posts. <sigh>
With the "dead" wire rigged to supply power continuously, we would see a modulation of the input power of 1200 Watts (400 from each of the 2 "live" phases plus 400 Watts from the "dead" phase) for 2 minutes, followed by 400 Watts (just from the "dead" phase) for 4 minutes, repeating. Instead of the claimed power input (400 Watts * 2 phases * 33% duty cycle = 266.6 Watts (average), the E-Cat (actually, the heating coils in the tube furnace) would have 400 Watts * 3 phases * 33% duty cycle + 400 Watts * 66% duty cycle = 666.6 Watts (average). This gives an observed COP of 2.5, just what the report describes. No laser beams. No magic paint. No tricky DC bias or high-frequency signals inserted into the normal A/C power supply. Just one hidden conductor in the supposedly "dead" wire. (If the wire wasn't doing anything, why was it left in the circuit?) John ________________________________ From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test John, Please explain how the dead wire you discuss is able to deliver a continuous power into the control box while still explaining the modulation of the output power and temperature as seen by the IR camera system. If, as you imply, power is continually sent to the power resistors you need to explain how the waveforms fail to show any indication of this. Also, the input power matches quite well with the output power determination in the time domain. Where the graphs show power going into the control box, temperature is rising on the exterior of the device. Why do you suppose this is so? Reference to continuous power input is not consistent with any of the data. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Milstone <john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 1:47 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test Nice attempt by Benne, Storms (I'm surprised that he piled on), and Roberson to deflect the issue. There is still the issue that Rossi has a supposedly "dead" phase on his 3-phase power cabling, and that that additional wire, if it were actually "live" (as per the wiring gimmick in question), would have provided exactly the amount of power allegedly being generated by the E-Cat (conveniently hidden inside of a furnace out of sight of the IR camera). Regarding your specific rant, attempting to discredit "hot" fusion (or other branches of conventional physics) does nothing to enhance LENR. John ________________________________ From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test I agree Ed. Both you and Jones have stated the situation eloquently and I hope that John gives considerable thought to what has been said. I suppose that one reason that any current modern physics determination can be overturned by a knowledgeable skeptic is that they all are the current ideas which one day will be replaced by updated ones. This is scientific progress as it should be. For example, Newton's old laws were assumed perfect at the time, but Einstein came along and improved them with his breakthroughs. So, now Rossi has his device under scrutiny by the skeptics who can always find some reason to complain. Most if not all of the reasons thus far suggested are invalid, but the skeptics seem to keep themselves occupied. This is their job and they would not know how to behave otherwise so I guess we have to cut them some slack. I would be concerned if what they spread throughout the Internet were able to delay the solution to many of the needs of mankind. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Cc: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test Well said, JONES!!! This is exactly the situation. Physics has sold the governments of the world on spending money for research that has practically no value. This use of money limits what else can be explored and greatly distorts what can be discovered. LENR has been rejected and held to a very high standard simply because it threatens this spending, as you so clearly state. When LENR is finally applied at a level that even an idiot will have to accept, the physics community will have to explain why this acceptance took so long when so much evidence was available and when the need for the energy was so great. Careful evaluation and rational skepticism is important but rational limits must be applied because EVERYTHING believed by science can be rejected by a determined skeptic. We would still be in the Dark Ages if rational limits to skepticism had not been agreed to and applied in science. Why is so hard to do now with LENR? Ed On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > > From: John Milstone > > > > For starters, CERN isn't selling "franchises" to the Higgs Boson. > CERN > doesn't rely on "secret" customers and "secret" experts to validate > their > work. Etc, etc. > > > > > > This is complete bull crap ! Big Science is doing much worse than > that. > > > > But more so with regard to ITER or NOVA or Hot Fusion or other Big > Science > projects that are threatened by LENR than with CERN. > > > > The physics establishment is essentially selling "franchises" to > every > overpaid PhD and "yes-man" techie on the large staffs - who would be > fired, > if this kind of no-bid work were to be made moot by LENR. > > > > CERN might survive, but ITER and other extremely generous projects > with > routine $250k salaries would bite the dust! > > > > That is billions of dollars of bribe money, being paid out to an > elite group > to "tow the company line" ... That is far more despicable than Rossi > struggling for investment capital. > > <winmail.dat>
